Posted on 06/17/2004 8:14:14 AM PDT by Carl/NewsMax
In his interview with CBS newsman Dan Rather set for broadcast on Sunday, ex-President Bill Clinton flatly contradicts his earlier recorded confession that Sudan offered to arrest Osama bin Laden and hand him over to the U.S., calling reports of such an offer "bull."
"On the accusation that he had opportunities to get Osama bin Laden, had opportunities to have him delivered by the Sudanese, he said, 'absolutely, flatly untrue,' describing it as 'bull,'" Rather tells the Washington Post on Thursday.
In Feb. 2002, however, Mr. Clinton clearly admitted that the Sudanese offer had indeed taken place. And that he turned it down.
"Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan," Clinton told the Long Island Association on Feb. 15, 2002.
"He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991, then he went to Sudan. And we'd been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again.
"They released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America.
"So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, 'cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn't and that's how he wound up in Afghanistan."
On Thursday morning, MewsMax.com offered CBS's "60 Minutes" a copy of its exclusive recording of Clinton's remarks.
But it's not clear whether the network will be willing to embarrass the ex-president by airing smoking gun proof that his current claims about the bin Laden offer are false.
Listen to NewsMax.com's exclusive recording of Bill Clinton admitting that he let bin Laden go free.
Any ad that will make Colmes turn pink and Estrich show up drunk on TV again is something to imagine! Colmes has been saying, even when Ijaz has been on his show, that he doesn't believe the Bin Laden offer. And they've quoted Clinton right back. His answer? Taken out of context. Estrich says it's all right wing fantasy.
Was Steiner stupid for telling such a blatant lie or clever for knowing he would get away with it?
Bull crap! Here's an posting that I saved for future reference in and when clintoon started denying the dangers of bin Laden. See below:
Clinton's Letter to Congress on Freezing of bin Ladin Assets
http://www.ict.org.il ^ | August 22, 1998 | Clinton
August 22, 1998
Clinton's Letter to Congress on Freezing of bin Ladin Assets
Text of letter from President Clinton to the leaders of Congress explaining why he ordered the freezing of all assets controlled by or affiliated with terrorist chieftain Usama bin Ladin.
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts)
Dear Mr. Speaker:
On January 23, 1995, in light of the threat posed by grave acts of violence committed by foreign terrorists that disrupt the Middle East peace process, using my authority under, inter alia, the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.), I declared a national emergency and issued Executive Order 12947. Because such terrorist activities continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States, I have renewed the national emergency declared in Executive Order 12947 annually, most recently on January 21, 1998. Pursuant to section 204(b) of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1703(b)) and section 201 of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1631), I hereby report to the Congress that I have exercised my statutory authority to issue an Executive Order that amends Executive Order 12947 in order more effectively to respond to the worldwide threat posed by foreign terrorists.
The amendment to the Annex of Executive Order 12947 adds Usama bin Muhammad bin Awad bin Ladin (a.k.a. Usama bin Ladin), Islamic Army, Abu Hafs al-Masri, and Rifa'i Ahmad Taha Musa to the list of terrorists that are subject to the prohibitions contained in the Executive Order. These prohibitions include the blocking of all property and interests in the property of the terrorists listed in the Annex, the prohibition of any transaction or dealing by United States persons or within the United States in property or interests in property of the persons designated, and the prohibition of any transaction by any United States persons or within the United States that evades or avoids, or has the purpose of evading or avoiding, any of the prohibitions set forth in the Executive Order.
Usama bin Ladin and his organizations and associates have repeatedly called upon their supporters to perform acts of violence. Bin Ladin has declared that killing Americans and their allies "is an individual duty for every Muslim ... in order to liberate the Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Holy Mosque." These threats are clearly intended to violently disrupt the Middle East peace process.
This Executive Order does not limit or otherwise affect the other provisions of Executive Order 12947.
I have authorized these actions in view of the danger posed to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States by the activities of Usama bin Muhammad bin Awad bin Ladin (a.k.a. Usama bin Ladin), Islamic Army, Abu Hafs al-Masri, and Rifa'i Ahmad Taha Musa that disrupt the Middle East peace process. I am enclosing a copy of the Executive Order that I have issued exercising my emergency authorities.
Sincerely, WILLIAM J. CLINTON
Executive Order 12947
PROHIBITING TRANSACTIONS WITH TERRORISTS WHO THREATEN TO DISRUPT THE MIDDLE EAST PEACE PROCESS
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.) (IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code, I, WILLIAM J. CLINTON, President of the United States of America, find that grave acts of violence committed by foreign terrorists that disrupt the Middle East peace process constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States, and hereby declare a national emergency to deal with that threat. I hereby order:
Section 1. Except to the extent provided in section 203(b)(3) and (4) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(3) and (4)) and in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted prior to the effective date: (a) all property and interests in property of: (i) the persons listed in the Annex to this order; (ii) foreign persons designated by the Secretary of State, in coordination with the Secretary of the Treasury and the Attorney General, because they are found: (A) to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of disrupting the Middle East peace process, or (B) to assist in, sponsor, or provide financial, material, or technological support for, or services in support of, such acts of violence; and (iii) persons determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in coordination with the Secretary of State and the Attorney General, to be owned or controlled by, or to act for or on behalf of, any of the foregoing persons, that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that hereafter come within the possession or control of United States persons, are blocked; (b) any transaction or dealing by United States persons or within the United States in property or interests in property of the persons designated in or pursuant to this order is prohibited, including the making or receiving of any contribution of funds, goods, or services to or for the benefit of such persons; (c) any transaction by any United States person or within the United States that evades or avoids, or has the purpose of evading or avoiding, or attempts to violate, any of the prohibitions set forth in this order, is prohibited.
Sec. 2. For the purposes of this order: (a) the term "person" means an individual or entity; (b) the term "entity" means a partnership, association, corporation, or other organization, group, or subgroup; (c) the term "United States person" means any United States citizen, permanent resident alien, entity organized under the laws of the United States (including foreign branches), or any person in the United States; and (d) the term "foreign person" means any citizen or national of a foreign state (including any such individual who is also a citizen or national of the United States) or any entity not organized solely under the laws of the United States or existing solely in the United States, but does not include a foreign state.
Sec. 3. I hereby determine that the making of donations of the type specified in section 203(b)(2)(A) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(2)(A)) by United States persons to persons designated in or pursuant to this order would seriously impair my ability to deal with the national emergency declared in this order, and hereby prohibit such donations as provided by section 1 of this order.
Sec. 4. (a) The Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and, as appropriate, the Attorney General, is hereby authorized to take such actions, including the promulgation of rules and regulations, and to employ all powers granted to me by IEEPA as may be necessary to carry out the purposes of this order. The Secretary of the Treasury may redelegate any of these functions to other officers and agencies of the United States Government. All agencies of the United States Government are hereby directed to take all appropriate measures within their authority to carry out the provisions of this order. (b) Any investigation emanating from a possible violation of this order, or of any license, order, or regulation issued pursuant to this order, shall first be coordinated with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and any matter involving evidence of a criminal violation shall be referred to the FBI for further investigation. The FBI shall timely notify the Department of the Treasury of any action it takes on such referrals.
Sec. 5. Nothing contained in this order shall create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable by any party against the United States, its agencies or instrumentalities, its officers or employees, or any other person.
Sec. 6. (a) This order is effective at 12:01 a.m., eastern standard time on January 24, 1995. (b) This order shall be transmitted to the Congress and published in the Federal Register.
WILLIAM J. CLINTON
THE WHITE HOUSE,
January 23, 1995.
ANNEX TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS WHICH THREATEN TO DISRUPT THE MIDDLE EAST PEACE PROCESS Abu Nidal Organization (ANO) Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) Hizballah Islamic Gama'at (IG) Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) Jihad Kach Kahane Chai Palestinian Islamic Jihad-Shiqaqi faction (PIJ) Palestine Liberation Front-Abu Abbas faction (PLF-Abu Abbas) Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC)
Just incredible.
LOL
Exactly. Statements made before a room full of Democrats do not mean the same thing as statements made to the general public. It's all a matter of context.
I'm beginning to figure these guys out.
This guy is SOOO twisted, I imagine, one day soon, he's going to start coming out of his house in the morning with his underwear on outside of his clothing. How can he possibly keep all of his BS straight any longer????????????
Bill Clinton-The gift that keeps on giving.
...Dan does a Lewinsky
So this means his ambassador to the Sudan and Mansour Ijaz (did I get that name right?) from FOX who helped broker the deals lied, too, in their piece in the NY Times? Uh, I don't think so!
Call the CBS EVening NEws newsroom and ask for Dan Rather (fat chance they will transfer you to him, but this would be the best place since he would not be on the 60 Minutes set):
212-975-3691
This is a direct line to the newsroom where you can complain and quote this.
THE FOLLOWING NUMBER IS TO CONTACT 60 MINUTES...QUOTE HIS STATEMENT NOW AND THEN QUOTE HIS PAST STATEMENT AND ASK IF THEY WILL COVER IT:
(212) 975-3247
Carl....do you have a transcript of the speech or anything like that......sources who were there who can confirm the tape was real?
You probably would need to have that for 60 Minutes as well before they would go with it (if they would then...probably not....though the opportunity to catch an ex-president in a lie of something on this magnitude might make them cover it even though they love Clinton).
Even if were in Dan Rather's shoes and came upon info that an ex-President I just interviewed had lied about something this big, I would definitely run with the story because it is a big deal and a big feather in the cap...even if the President was a person I liked.
We will see if Dan has any integrity I guess.
Call! 60 Minutes: (212) 975-3247
DIRECT LINE TO CBS NEWSROOM....DANNY BOY WILL BE WORKING IN PREP FOR HIS EVENING NEWS....THIS IS A SEMI-SECRET NUMBER: 212-975-3691
To him it must be a trifecta instead of striking out....
If you REALLY want to get in touch with some of these folks (Rummy would work since he has a private residence), do a google search for something like "election contributions address." If they have made an election contribution, the FEC has public their home address. Sites like opensecrets keep this part blacked out, but not all do...
Not holding my breath.....
"I guess Clinton lied to himself."
You got that right.
Bertelsmann AG owns the company that is publishing Clinton's book.
1. Is Bertelsmann some sort of sleazoid Soros type company?
2. Simon and Schuster published crusty's book and we know S&S is part of the evil Viacom empire. Why didn't S&S do Willie's book?
Paging Mansoor Ijaz and Richard Miniter...
While I could not confirm the veracity of the tape, I did find one NY Times article in Lexis Nexis that confirms Clinton did speak to the Long Island Association on Feb. 15, 2002. I would place my bets on this tape being authentic.
I will be doing some legwork to contact sources mentioned in the piece to see if I can't get a transcript of his comments or something along those lines.
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