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Conservatives Irked Over Bush-Clinton Lovefest
Newsmax ^ | 6/15/04

Posted on 06/15/2004 9:25:09 AM PDT by areafiftyone

President Bush certainly didn't score any points with his conservative base on Monday when he praised Bill Clinton to the hilt during the unveiling of the impeached president's White House portrait.

"President Bush was more laudatory and more passionate about Bill Clinton than he was about President Reagan [during Friday's memorial service]," contended nationally syndicated radio host Michael Savage Monday night.

When Bush spoke about Reagan, said Savage, "we got empty homilies. We got less than empty homilies - we got a Mr. Rogers job."

But at the Clinton portrait ceremony, Savage said, "Today we actually got a passionate President Bush. He was almost animated to be around Bill Clinton. The guy looked happy."

Though the Bush-Clinton lovefest left many of the president's fans fuming, Mr. Clinton's obvious enjoyment of Bush's kind words also raised eyebrows inside Sen. John Kerry presidential campaign, which only 24-hours earlier had been assured that Clinton would come out swinging this week against the White House.

"Maybe [Bush and Clinton] have a mutual interest in a Democrat not winning this November," said MSNBC host Chris Matthews, noting that a Kerry loss would pave the way for Mrs. Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign.


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To: BibChr
Truth isn't determined by majority vote. Was what W said true, or false?To those who are followers of Clinton's criteria its was as sweet water very true to those of us who do not follow that ilk it was false as tar jelly

Were the Clinton's "great parents"?

Time will determine great parenting and no amount of speculation will change the outcome!

Has the passage of time highlighted Clinton's strengths?

Its hard to highlight strengths when a country as a whole put this man in office twice without regard for its own strength not all voted for this man but those who did believed in him BLIND BELEIF is still belief.

Did Clinton show great compassion for people in need?

He showed compassion for people of his need his kind he affected all those around him was this compassion is different compassion its selfish encirclement

Did Americans (that means you) know that Clinton was working hard to bring a better day closer?

I'm not Americans I'm but 1 American my opinion among a sea of millions is less than equal to those who followed this wretch of a man !

Is HRC an extraordinary person? Has HRC proved herself more equal to the challenge of being a Senator?

In the grand scheme of things this female windbag amounts to nothing other than that !! WIND

Can Clinton today be even prouder of decades of service, and effort, and perseverance?

Only time will tell weather his head will fit through in decades to come!

You'll have to twist if you're going to answer "yes" to any of those questions.

I have answered your questions without twisting i could have answered more ravenously but X42's times are over in the white house hes not worth getting worked up about !

And if you answer "no" even to one, here's the next question:

I have answered neither and yet have answered all!

Did President Bush know it was a false statement?

I will not stoop to call my President a liar ! Nor should you

If you answer "no," then he is at least dumber than you or I.

My Friend he is smarter than both of us combined.

381 posted on 06/16/2004 9:09:06 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (‘All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.’ TJefferson)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Oh, don't get me wrong, he was being a gentleman. What I meant about not going that far was that I wouldn't figure that all the folks this ticked off are idiots. I do believe he was trying to be classy and that there may have been some strategory, but the main motivation was respect for the Presidency.


382 posted on 06/16/2004 9:40:00 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt: Pray for Terri Schindler-Schiavo!)
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To: BibChr

Faint praise is like a feather in the wind.


383 posted on 06/16/2004 9:42:42 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Protagoras
Oh, now you're a victim. LOL

I didn't even know who the hell you were until you claimed to call American Indians "Injuns", and we pulled your butt to the curb. Now you whine about it all. Poor little baby. [Snicker.]

384 posted on 06/16/2004 9:53:55 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (JUST SAY NO TO SIMS' CITY.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Do you say, "That's an ugly baby." Or do you say, "That's a beautiful baby"? I rest my case,

I say. Oh my goodness, he looks just like his Daddy.

385 posted on 06/16/2004 10:07:28 PM PDT by Texas Mom
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To: Protagoras; TOUGH STOUGH

Don't buy into his B.S., TOUGH STOUGH. Whether you agree with his point or not regarding the topic of this thread is one thing, but just so you know - Protagoras and I have a brief history, where he enjoys using my "race" against me when we debate. It has nothing to do with you, just as an FYI (unless you condone racial digs at people. Somehow I doubt that) ;0)


386 posted on 06/16/2004 10:40:11 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

I agree, W is smart. That is why I conclude that he lied. He knew that what he was saying, that the impression he created by his words, was not true.

Dan


387 posted on 06/17/2004 5:07:49 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Chad Fairbanks
"Unless you condone racial digs at people"

Well, now, that would depend on your race, *wink*.

Only kidding less anyone take me seriously. Of course I don't condone racial digs at people.

Regarding this particular issue, I think the president could have toned down both his rhetoric and his enthusiasm and still have been gracious.

However, what he said could have been far more disingenious, and I do think he was trying his best to be diplomatic. His prescence at the event was probably not something he could avoid, and as I said previously he was in a bit of a sticky wicket. Therefore, I can't get too angry at him over this one.

Perhaps, he will get better at it with continued practice. I am certain anything he might have said would have made someone angry.

388 posted on 06/18/2004 11:58:15 AM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH ( A vote for George Bush is a principled vote!)
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To: BibChr

Was W lying when he campaigned for Specter?


389 posted on 06/18/2004 12:00:17 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH ( A vote for George Bush is a principled vote!)
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To: TOUGH STOUGH

I can't think verbatim of anything he said, except that he needed Arlen Specter in the Senate. I guess you have a point; if I'm remembering right, that certainly is not true.

THough I might say it's in a different category than these statements. W knows best why he might (incredibly) imagine he needs Specter. But whether or not the Clintons are "great parents," etc.? Give me a break.

Dan


390 posted on 06/18/2004 12:12:08 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr
W said, in the commercial based on W's stumping for Specter on the campaign trail and I am paraphrasing but it's pretty close, that "Arlen is always with us on the most important issues" (said with great enthusiasm while holding up one of Arlen's arms, while Rick Santorum held up the other). Now I do acknowledge, just by phrasing it in that way, W is aware that Arlen frequently isn't with us, and thus his statement is a show of diplomacy.

But come on, even that statement is not true - and W had to be aware of it.

On the other hand, he at least tries not to lie, as BIG and as much as many other politicians.

391 posted on 06/18/2004 12:32:55 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH ( A vote for George Bush is a principled vote!)
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To: TOUGH STOUGH

Well, I think you're right. I think that would be a lie.

What an odd thing. I don't like comparing lies, but W lies to be generous to enemies, whereas The Nameless One lied constantly and only to serve himself.

But lies are lies, and lying is wrong. W shouldn't do it.

Dan


392 posted on 06/18/2004 12:39:13 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr

An excellent distinction. I can't say for certain, but I hope W is as generous to his friends.


393 posted on 06/18/2004 1:09:11 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH ( A vote for George Bush is a principled vote!)
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