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Please just go away. You are a disgrace as a leader. Just go away!
1 posted on 06/15/2004 7:03:02 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
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There are several things here:

1. There is a cat fight over the actual use of the Abu Ghriab facility that has been going on for quite some time.

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2. Somewhere after the completion of the rebuilding of the prison, and after the military took over, someone messed up... to what degree is debateable. If it was part of interrogations, thats ok and much less of an issue. If it was aimless and pointless military troops just getting their jollies, THAT stops right with the general. That shows exactly what kind of leader she is.

Some argue that panties on the head and getting hit with a nerf bat is humiliating, but not very serious. None the less its on the news often in vague terms so that makes it worse.

3. Finally SOMEWHERE in the military ranks SOMEONE is responsible. If she is the general in charge...DUH. Generals are supposed to kick ass and take names. It sounds to me like extremely poor leadership on her part.

No matter WHAT so and so did before, a strong leader would lay down the law as to what THEY want NOW, and from this time forth.

It sounds a might lot like the CEO of a company talking to shareholders, "Our share price dropped $10 a share because the sales department didn't do its job, the finance team sucks, and this place is a wreck. Its totally disorganized!" Thats more of a self indictment than anything.

That is, unless they put generals in position and give them no real authority...sort of a figurehead only type of thing...

36 posted on 06/15/2004 8:43:21 AM PDT by maui_hawaii
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Where's the "bimbo general" alert? ;)


37 posted on 06/15/2004 8:55:59 AM PDT by G.Mason (A President is best judged by the enemies he makes when he has really hit his stride…Max Lerner)
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WWPD?
Women should not be giving orders to men. Period.

For centuries, men went to war to fight for their women and children.
It is a sick society indeed which sends its women to fight to protect men or command men.
What would Patton do?

Dear President Bush: You are the Commander-in-Chief. Take care of this, okay?!!

38 posted on 06/15/2004 8:59:09 AM PDT by ppaul
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"Brig. Gen. Janis Karpinski said Miller told her last autumn that prisoners "are like dogs, and if you allow them to believe at any point that they are more than a dog then you've lost control of them."

Women in the military is not a good thing. How many high ranking, highly qualified male leaders have been forced to leave the Armed Forces because their female counterparts have charged them with "sexual harrassment"? When political agenda is put in front of military unity, the military loses something very valuable and important to its success. Apparenlty this woman, "Gen" Karpinski, can't take the heat without trying to bring a male General Officer or two down with her. This whole thing happened under her direct supervision and control; if she had any gullionies whatsoever she'd just..... oops, I forgot myself for a moment.

40 posted on 06/15/2004 9:04:45 AM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II)
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She is a disgrace to the uniform and should never have gone as far as she did. We need to take back our Armed Forces!


42 posted on 06/15/2004 9:18:53 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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You GENERAL were the COMMANDING OFFICER......you are RESPONSIBLE, case closed.....now retire and leave the job to someone who WILL accept RESPONSIBILITY for their command.

She is a disgrace to the uniform!

44 posted on 06/15/2004 9:26:07 AM PDT by PISANO (NEVER FORGET 911 !!!!)
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"The American general who was in charge of Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison claimed she was being made a scapegoat for the abuse of detainees, and said her successor once told her that prisoners should be treated "like dogs." "

The implication of 'scapegoat' is that she did nothing wrong. She supposed to be able to think for herself to some degree. She was wrong and has to accept the responsibility. I would not be surprised if there were others that should be court-marshaled who just happened to be better at covering their own backsides. The 'like dogs' remark could very easily be taken out of context and who cares what he said anyway? He wasn't the one on duty.


45 posted on 06/15/2004 10:03:29 AM PDT by nosofar
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Karpinski is unqualified to run a lemonade stand.


52 posted on 06/15/2004 7:22:51 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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