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Iraq Prison Abuse Copied Guantanamo, Karpinski Says (Barf Alert, Shirking Responsibility)
Bloomberg.com ^ | 6/15/04 | Bloomberg.com

Posted on 06/15/2004 5:47:34 AM PDT by NYC Republican

Edited on 07/19/2004 2:14:31 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib jail came about with the introduction of methods used at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp in Cuba that treated detainees ``like dogs,'' Brigadier General Janis Karpinski said in an interview with the BBC.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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Can you believe the nerve of this disgusting officer? She's blaming U.S. policy for what happened on her watch. She is an absolute disgrace.
1 posted on 06/15/2004 5:47:34 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: NYC Republican

Thank the US Army and their LOWERED standards for producing this steaming pile of camel crap. She isn't fit to cut the Irish Pennants from Patton's uniform.


2 posted on 06/15/2004 5:50:06 AM PDT by gunnygail (Pig in a blanket? Why a dead muslim in a pig skin of course!)
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To: NYC Republican

Rita Cosby was at Guantanamo recently and said everything looked okay to her. Detainees were reading, praying and even playing chess and checkers. They supposedly picked that cell area at random. As much as I dislike Rita Cosby I believe her over Gen. Karpinski. Gen. Karpinski was fit to oversee a quilting bee let alone a prison.


3 posted on 06/15/2004 5:50:25 AM PDT by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid)
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To: gunnygail

Exactly!


4 posted on 06/15/2004 5:54:31 AM PDT by NYC Republican (President Reagan (1911 -2004)- Greatest President of Our Lifetime- Rest in Peace)
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To: AngieGOP

"Gen. Karpinski was fit to oversee a quilting bee let alone a prison."

Should have proof read. I meant that Gen. Karpinski was NOT fit to oversee a quilting bee let alone a prison.



5 posted on 06/15/2004 5:54:34 AM PDT by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid)
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To: AngieGOP

First a typo, then you're "talking" to yourself? LOL.


6 posted on 06/15/2004 5:55:35 AM PDT by NYC Republican (President Reagan (1911 -2004)- Greatest President of Our Lifetime- Rest in Peace)
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To: NYC Republican
She neglects to mention the insubordination of her charges also......she only discusses the prison abuse, not the frolicking by her soldiers....
7 posted on 06/15/2004 6:05:20 AM PDT by alisasny (GODSPEED DEAR SWEET PRINCE OF MEN RONALD REAGAN : ))
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To: NYC Republican

At least no one made her wander around the prison naked ~ thank goodness!


8 posted on 06/15/2004 6:07:37 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: NYC Republican
The Dems put her up to this, you can bet your arse. The Dems thought the Aba Dabba Doo prison fraternity prank (read abuse) scandal would be the end of Bush. It did some damage to be sure, but the Dems were not content to stop there. They want to directly connect the President to this. Therein lies the problem, there is no direct connection.

OK, then where did they go from there? They started to hear about memo's etc. relating to the treatment of Al Queda suspects and other high level terror targets. To be sure, the Geneva conventions DO NOT APPLY to these people. But in order to be able to score their political points, the Dems have to pretend that they do and then some, i.e. that every one of these poor victims of Bush (read Al Queda Terrorists) should get an ACLU lawyer.

A few of the many things disgusting about this are:

1)The Dems are always quick to point out that Iraq is not the War on Terror, i.e. combating Al Queda. Yet, when a memo regarding how far to go with Al Queda prisoners comes forth, suddenly the War in Iraq is part of the War on Terror. Well, which is it, are they part of the same conflict or aren't they?

2) Sen. Biden grandstanding about what happens to his son if he is captured etc. etc. Here is what happens Senator, your son gets killed or tortured, REGARDLESS OF HOW WE TREAT AL QUEDA PRISONERS. Except now, they get to make a big stink about it and score propaganda points. Congrats Senator, Al Queda thanks you.

3) The Dems truly are aligned with Al Queda. The Dems have positioned it so as to score politically when Al Queda succeeds. Here is the kicker, the Dems are helping Al Queda. As this race gets nastier, I hope that a Republican Org. akin to Moveon.org starts aggressively pointing that out. Why not, they call Conservatives the Taliban. Fair is fair.
9 posted on 06/15/2004 6:08:18 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: NYC Republican
In this very interview with the BBC about US policy, General Karpinski admits that she was, in effect, taking orders from a lower-ranking officer. Of course, giving the interview itself is a separate violation of military regulations.

As I have written before, this so-called officer was derelict in her command for not knowing and controlling what went on among her subordinates. A general officer of the US Army should not whine and complain. Instead, he/she should either do the job competently or accept the consequences.

Karpinski is a disgrace to the uniform which she still (unfortunately) wears. Did I miss anything?

Congressman Billybob

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10 posted on 06/15/2004 6:09:25 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: NYC Republican

Sorry, first post of the day without coffee.


11 posted on 06/15/2004 6:10:37 AM PDT by AngieGOP (I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid)
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To: FlipWilson

Excellent post!


12 posted on 06/15/2004 6:18:14 AM PDT by NYC Republican (President Reagan (1911 -2004)- Greatest President of Our Lifetime- Rest in Peace)
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To: Congressman Billybob

You summed it up pretty well.


13 posted on 06/15/2004 6:18:54 AM PDT by NYC Republican (President Reagan (1911 -2004)- Greatest President of Our Lifetime- Rest in Peace)
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To: NYC Republican

If they had any reasons for not cashiering this incompetent general they are now gone. She should be brought up on charges for failing to maintain discipline in her unit. As I understand it there is ample evidence.


14 posted on 06/15/2004 6:38:58 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: NYC Republican

She says she is being made a scapegoat. That raises the question; Is she a billy or a nanny?


15 posted on 06/15/2004 6:47:16 AM PDT by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
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To: NYC Republican

Karpinski needs to face Court martial. What a disgrace to the uniform.


16 posted on 06/15/2004 6:51:56 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: NYC Republican

why is that traitorous leftist bitch not in jail with her mouth taped shut????


17 posted on 06/15/2004 7:09:00 AM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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To: steplock

Anyone ever hear what brand of perfume she was caught stealing from the PX? It may become a fashion item.


18 posted on 06/15/2004 7:18:42 AM PDT by latrans
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