Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: sheltonmac

"So, the government, through the Constitution, grants us our rights? We don't have a right to anything unless it's in the Constitution? You do realize that kind of reasoning is at odds with 100% of the Constitution's framers, right?"

Our Founders weren't merely rights'granters like many of our current citizens have denigrated into. The supreme goal of the Constitutional Convention was to set up a process, a government, from which to protect people's rights.

No where do you find in the debates of the Constitution talk of how to get out of the Union. Secession is repugnant to the Founders.


61 posted on 06/14/2004 1:01:59 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies ]


To: rbmillerjr
No where do you find in the debates of the Constitution talk of how to get out of the Union.

Nonsense. During convention Madison - arguing to limit state militia powers - stated, '[a]s the greatest danger is that of disunion of the states, it is necessary to guard against it by [delegating] sufficient powers to the COMMON government' [emphasis mine]. The motion under debate was rejected 8-3.

Secession is repugnant to the Founders.

Really? See above. What explains their secession from the Articles of Confederation & Perpetual Union.

62 posted on 06/14/2004 1:47:03 PM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies ]

To: rbmillerjr
Secession is repugnant to the Founders.

Repugnant, but sometimes necessary. Perhaps you remember reading about their little act of secession that occurred in 1776.

79 posted on 06/14/2004 7:25:01 PM PDT by sheltonmac ("Duty is ours; consequences are God's." -Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 61 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson