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To: rbmillerjr
No where do you find in the debates of the Constitution talk of how to get out of the Union.

Nonsense. During convention Madison - arguing to limit state militia powers - stated, '[a]s the greatest danger is that of disunion of the states, it is necessary to guard against it by [delegating] sufficient powers to the COMMON government' [emphasis mine]. The motion under debate was rejected 8-3.

Secession is repugnant to the Founders.

Really? See above. What explains their secession from the Articles of Confederation & Perpetual Union.

62 posted on 06/14/2004 1:47:03 PM PDT by 4CJ (||) Men die by the calendar, but nations die by their character. - John Armor, 5 Jun 2004 (||)
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To: 4ConservativeJustices

Secession is repugnant to the Founders.

"Really? See above. What explains their secession from the Articles of Confederation & Perpetual Union."

Yes. Really.

You have simply stated a point for State sovereignty. I have never argued against that and neither did the founders.

The Articles of Confederation were a failure and thus the stronger national government required - that really.

My point is that absolutely nowhere is the right to secede brought up in the debates or finalized in the Constitution. Issues and problems were meant to be solved within the Constitution.


63 posted on 06/14/2004 2:06:31 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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