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Michael Moore Hates America (Anti-Moore Film)- Check out the NEW trailer!!!
Michael Moore Hates America ^ | 6-13-04 | Mike Wilson

Posted on 06/13/2004 7:32:35 PM PDT by jmstein7

What's happenin'? I've got a ton to do tonight, so I'm going to keep it short.

I just finished cutting the new trailer, and will spend the rest of the night, focused on the demo for distributors. We have a solid skeleton, and now it's about putting my personality into it. So that's where we are. I'm absolutely blown away by how big this whole endeavor has become. We toiled away in anonymity for a year, and to suddenly have people paying attention is really strange.

So in a matter of a few short weeks, we've gone from being in a situation where I didn't know if I'd ever get the flick finished, to a situation where the film is fully funded, and where we will be announcing a distributor within a few short days. More on that later.

The most important part for me is that the film will be seen. I'm willing to deal with whether people love it or hate it, and whether it's a smash or a bomb, because I crafted it out of nothing. It's on my shoulders right now. The next few days are going to be the part of the ride where we crest and start screaming at 100MPH. It will be a blast, provided we can keep it on the rails. I'll keep you posted.

Take care,

Mike Wilson
Director, Michael Moore Hates America

New Trailer - Alternative Formats QuickTime Large (8.4Mb) Windows Media (Small 768k) Windows Media (Large 5.1Mb)

 


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To: jmstein7

If he can get a distributor. I've had my fingers crossed for him for some time. Hope he pulls it off.


41 posted on 06/14/2004 3:17:41 AM PDT by Deb (Democrats HATE America...there's no other explanation.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

It's not real, in fact it's also out of context.
It's fabricated and is actually part of an art piece where the "body" is laying on the floor in a lab, a victim of an experiment gone awry.
In this pic the body has been photoshopped onto the street.


42 posted on 06/14/2004 3:30:09 AM PDT by visualops (Let's win another one for the Gipper.)
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To: jmstein7

BTTT


43 posted on 06/14/2004 3:41:45 AM PDT by twntaipan (When will the second US civil war occur?)
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To: jmstein7

bump for a great trailer.


44 posted on 06/14/2004 3:52:45 AM PDT by RobFromGa (The Four Pillars of America; Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Reagan)
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To: jmstein7

45 posted on 06/14/2004 5:27:26 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: jmstein7

bump for later viewing at home


46 posted on 06/14/2004 6:47:46 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("Nothing wrong with shooting as long as the right people get shot" - Dirty Harry)
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To: Jon Alvarez

Any protests gave more attention to the Reagan film. Publicity they didn't have to pay for.

But Moore's film is a horse of a different color. The film already has anough of a publicity machine behind it. Adding to it with an organized protest characterizies the film as 'the movie the vile right wing doesn't want you to see.'

That isn't good.


47 posted on 06/14/2004 8:12:52 AM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: wirestripper

It's all a matter of opinion and style, really. An organized protest feeds into Moore's publicity machine, rather than undermines it.

I don't know your background in law to make that claim on sedition. In any case, that's a matter for the Justice Department to persue. What in the world does that have to do with protesters?

I never suggested that no counter view should be issued. Where did I say that. Indeed, this young man's film IS the counter view, and I support it 100%. What makes you think that protest is necessarily the best avenue to advance a counter view?

Talk of rights and responsibilities aside, what does that have to do with the wisdom of a protest? Again, we can and should arm ourselves with the facts

The media depicts conservatives as backward right wingers, zealots, censors, etc. it's not true, of course, but that's the depiction they go with. Way too many people buy into that.

Further, the media will seldom if ever characterize the left wingers as backwards, zealots, censors, etc. That's a fact - conservatives who ignore this fact of life feed into the system that undermines their credibility.

I never argued against the film criticising Moore. I never suggested we don't combat Moore's propoganda. I am saying that an organized protest of Moore's film feeds the publicity machine and the myth behind it, rather than undermines it.

We need to combat this another way. Our side really needs to wise up.


48 posted on 06/14/2004 8:19:46 AM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: jmstein7

I wonder how this movie will do at cannes?


49 posted on 06/14/2004 8:22:31 AM PDT by bad company (God speed Dutch)
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To: CyberAnt

You are free to pick my statements apart, but you didn't.

Protests do feed into the Moore publicity machine, rather than undermine it. They also feed his ego. It makes him seem much more important than he really is.

I don't trust your assesment of that, sorry. You are off base.

I don't doubt that there are lots of uninformed people out there, but that doesn't have much to do with my statement. Indeed, many of those uninformed get their info from mainstream media sources.

"Thje protesters don't want you to see Michael Moore's expose of the Bush administration, a film that won the top award at Cannes." Then they interview one of the more dim-witted people on the protest line and make it look like the criticism of the movie is coming from backwards right wingers who want to censor the movie.

They have done this before, they will do it again.

You are a poor box office prognosticator. The chior WILL go see the movie, but it won't have much appeal beyond that. The movie will do modest business but get a lot of press - it will be crushed, of course, by Spider-Man 2 which opens a few days later. But the newspapers and magazines will continue talking about the film.

Do you really want an article about the protest with a hand-picked picture of a bunch of backward looking, invred-appearing zealots with the title "The movie that the right wing doesn't want you to see!" Moore can't pay for that kind of great publicity.

We shouldn't give it to him.

And finally, I never suggested ignoring the film. I just don't think organized protests is the best avenue towards that. Arm ourselves with the facts and argue about it whenever we can. I do - I embarassed a crabby lady at my supermarket the other day, and had a verbal tussle with a patronizing DNC worker on the streets of NYC that he is still smarting from.

I don't expect to change their minds, but I figure there are peopkle in earshot who might be on the fence and the exchange could motivate. I never appear mean or angry, which also undermines credibility.

Conservatives never get this lesson - the media will never be fair to our side of the issues. An organized protest will not impress the chior going to see the film, and naturally lead to some press coverage for the protest and for the film. This advertises the film, not undermines it. To expect anything else is unrealistic.


50 posted on 06/14/2004 8:31:48 AM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: HitmanNY

Thank you .. now that is a GOOD argument .. I knew you could do it!!


51 posted on 06/14/2004 9:32:13 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: CyberAnt

No problem. It's early and I haven't even had my hazelnut java! I'll be much better in about 25 minutes (and kids, don't do drugs and you stay in school!)


52 posted on 06/14/2004 9:40:54 AM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: ICX

bookmark for when i get home...


53 posted on 06/14/2004 9:57:44 AM PDT by ICX (Freedom of speech isn't working out so well for liberals now that someone else has the mic. - AC)
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bump


54 posted on 06/14/2004 9:58:09 AM PDT by wingnutx (tanstaafl)
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To: HitmanNY

Sorry .. but I had to bait you because I knew you had a much stronger case in there somewhere. I promise not to do that very often.

Also .. I was born in Oswego, NY, lived in Wolcott. Loved to shop in Rochester and Syracuse. My Uncle designed and built the park at Fair Haven. My dad is buried at Fair Haven. I still have family in and near Rochester.

I said that because I didn't want you to think I had anything against NY.


55 posted on 06/14/2004 11:02:57 AM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: a core set of principles from which he will not deviate)
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To: CyberAnt

bump


56 posted on 06/14/2004 11:37:04 AM PDT by Rise of South Park Republicans (The Founding Fathers wanted disagreements as long as we all agreed America kicks as* - Eric Cartman)
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To: visualops

Thanks for the real story. It was originally entitled "splat". It appeared as though this person had fallen out of an upper story window. Well that's how it was presented several years ago.


57 posted on 06/14/2004 12:08:06 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: jmstein7

What I and I am sure all freepers would like to see is a comparison of PAID attendance to both these films and see which gets the better viewing... and the only reason I say paid attendance is that eliminates the counting any hollywierd viewing partys for the Moore flick, or any bogus inflated #'s that moore might give for all his lib friends that he sent preview copies too... I for one will be first in line here in AZ for the anti-moore film. :)


58 posted on 06/14/2004 3:57:58 PM PDT by Americanwolf (Regan was pure class....... John Kerry is a pure A.......... I let you fill in the blanks.)
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To: jmstein7

This looks great!! This is why I love freerepublic! I'd never learn of this stuff if it weren't for you guys! Thanks so much! Can't wait to see the anti-Moore film!


59 posted on 06/14/2004 4:47:16 PM PDT by samiam1972 (Live simply so that others may simply live!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

It took alot of googling to get the truth.
It didn't look realistic to me, but it's sufficiently disturbing to say the least lol and piqued my curiosity.

The guy who made the original has done some other similar work and seems to be quite good at this weird realism.
If I remember to I'll try and find a link.


60 posted on 06/14/2004 5:06:55 PM PDT by visualops (Let's win another one for the Gipper.)
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