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This article is several days old and I hope it's okay to post from the ACLU website. This is another outrageous example of incremental destruction of our culture. The ACLU is right up there with enemy #1.
1 posted on 06/13/2004 6:21:31 PM PDT by kdot
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By this standard the Reagan funeral was unconstitutional and should have been stopped. Wonder why the ACLU did not try....


2 posted on 06/13/2004 6:23:49 PM PDT by Always Right
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...right up there with enemy #1.

Meaning the Ninth Circuit?

3 posted on 06/13/2004 6:25:21 PM PDT by Wissa
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It occurs to me that not only are the opposers of the cross ANTI-christs, that they are trying to engage in actions that will put fear into Christians.

When I read the book of Acts in the Bible I see numerous references to people being in ".. fear of the jews...".

Since they are always concerned about anti-semitism why do they insist on riling up trouble ?


4 posted on 06/13/2004 6:30:06 PM PDT by millefleur
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When will these 'justices' learn what the clause in the First really means? State created religion is what is prohibited, not already established religions!!! And the word endorsment appears not at all in said Amendment. So where in God's green earth do they get THAT bit of nonsense?! The government can't create its own religion. Not that the government can't recognize religion in any form!


6 posted on 06/13/2004 6:35:23 PM PDT by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
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Who was being forced to pray in front of the cross in the Mojave Federal Preserve?


7 posted on 06/13/2004 6:39:50 PM PDT by xrp
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The ACLU had better get on the ball. They are worried about this one cross on Federal land when there are thousands of crosses all over Federal lands. Of course they are over the graves of fallen soldiers in National cemeteries. But, you can't have that kind expression now can we? It could undermine freedom.
Of course this cross it is not expressing belief in religion. Symbols like that cross express something much more dangerous to the ACLU. A belief in God. It expresses faith in something bigger than ourselves. It shows we are answerable to a greater power other than man's law. That is the real threat to the secularists.
8 posted on 06/13/2004 6:52:11 PM PDT by Ironsman
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Cows are, after all, a tad more than just a religious symbol for one of the great world religions.

Our public lands are filled with cows.

Failure to ban those cows while banning a single cross certainly sends a message to the rest of us, eh?!

10 posted on 06/13/2004 6:58:02 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Gee, when will the ACLU take note of the hundreds of white crosses on Santa Monica Pier (not private land).

Those crosses are okay because they are being used as a display of the mounting losses of lives in Iraq by the "Veterans for Peace"?

It was shown on local news and they have a loudspeaker set up and read off the names of each lost soldier every hour. A reporter asked a man there about whether he thought the war was justified.....reply "it's about oil."


13 posted on 06/13/2004 7:07:28 PM PDT by Susannah (Have you thanked a soldier lately for your freedom?- www.amillionthanks.org)
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Are they doing a google search for crosses only? Next I can't wear one on my necklace....crimeny...


16 posted on 06/13/2004 7:21:49 PM PDT by momfirst
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When I read about such decisions, my first question is, What court? It is the Ninth Circus (excuse me, Circuit) Court of Appeals. That court is by a wide margin the most reversed court of appeals in the United States.

From long experience with the ACLU's write-ups, I know they tend to fudge the facts, both in their legal pleadings and in their press releases and related articles. I am fairly certain that this cross is located on private property, not public property. And that makes a critical difference in legal analysis -- except to the Ninth Circus.

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18 posted on 06/13/2004 7:38:03 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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"At every level the courts have rightly agreed with this principle and there's no reason to believe that any amount of political grandstanding is going to impact years of established jurisprudence on these matters."

Obviously, the "courts" cannot read the Amendment I of the U.s. Constituttion.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

19 posted on 06/13/2004 8:15:59 PM PDT by tahiti
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The Nine Circus ruling was to be expected. This is the court that two years ago declared the phrase "under God" in the Pledge Of Allegiance to be unconstitutional. More than ever, rulings like this one underscore the need to restrain the activism of liberal judges.


20 posted on 06/13/2004 8:16:24 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Do those BAstards in the American Communist Liberation Union ever sleep?! They won't quit until a leader with some guts stands up to them and the judicial sympathisers.


22 posted on 06/13/2004 10:10:07 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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