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Michael Moore had Knowledge of Iraqi Abuses... And didn't say anything...
Chronicle Senior Movie Writer ^

Posted on 06/13/2004 5:05:14 PM PDT by PatriotEdition

Documentarian kept quiet after filming U.S. soldiers abusing Iraqis

- Ruthe Stein, Chronicle Senior Movie Writer Sunday, June 13, 2004

Filmmaker Michael Moore said Friday he wasn't sure he did the right thing by saving footage of U.S. American soldiers' cruelty toward Iraqis for his controversial documentary, "Fahrenheit 9/11,'' instead of releasing the evidence earlier when it might have helped halt such abuse.

"I had it months before the story broke on '60 Minutes,' and I really struggled with what to do with it,'' Moore said in a telephone interview with The Chronicle. "I wanted to come out with it sooner, but I thought I'd be accused of just putting this out for publicity for my movie. That prevented me from making maybe the right decision.''

The footage, eerily similar to film of the atrocities at Abu Ghraib prison, shows GIs laughing as they snap photos of each other putting hoods over Iraqi detainees.

sfgate.com

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fatso; hillaryknew; michaelmoore; mickeymoore
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I just found this one on Drudge. If this is so... Wow. Will the liberals still like Michael Moore now? I mean, after all, he could have stopped the abuses maybe, but Hollywood came first.

Why didn't he do something to try to stop the abuses of the Iraqis that the liberals all feel so sorry for?

Too busy making a blockbuster movie which will link the currently sitting president to osama bin laden using a mixture of fairy tale and liberal spin just before the presidential election.

But it's strictly for entertainment purposes! It's not really a political ad.


1 posted on 06/13/2004 5:05:15 PM PDT by PatriotEdition
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To: PatriotEdition
By the time it was on 60 min. the military had already begun it's investigation.

Moore is full of it!

2 posted on 06/13/2004 5:08:51 PM PDT by OldFriend (LOSERS quit when they are tired/WINNERS quit when they have won)
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To: FL_engineer; Nita Nupress; Fred Nerks

Hey, look at this! Seems MM had info before the Army!!


3 posted on 06/13/2004 5:09:13 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: OldFriend

Lets investigate, get the camera man who filmed this to testify. If the camera man is still alive that is.


4 posted on 06/13/2004 5:11:36 PM PDT by mware
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To: PatriotEdition
More 'Moore' fodder for the media feeding frenzy.

Michael Moore said Friday he wasn't sure he did the right thing by saving footage of U.S. American soldiers' cruelty toward Iraqis for his controversial documentary, "Fahrenheit 9/11,'' instead of releasing the evidence earlier when it might have helped halt such abuse.

Better to hold on to it in hopes that it could be better used to do political damage. Right?
5 posted on 06/13/2004 5:12:09 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: mware

Many think the cameraman was Nicholas Berg


6 posted on 06/13/2004 5:12:18 PM PDT by Hildy ( If you don't stand up for what's RIGHT, you'll settle for what's LEFT.)
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To: Hildy
Many think the cameraman was Nicholas Berg

DITTO

7 posted on 06/13/2004 5:13:55 PM PDT by mware
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To: OldFriend
Moore is full of it!

He's full of something. And there is several 100 pounds of it.

8 posted on 06/13/2004 5:14:00 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Strategery - "W" plays poker with one hand and chess with the other.)
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To: mware

When is SOMEBODY going to investigate this? Seems to me this wouldn't be too hard. Moore is on record saying that he had film FEDEXED to him. He laughed how easy it was. Can't we check WHO SENT THE FEDEXES?????


9 posted on 06/13/2004 5:16:25 PM PDT by Hildy ( If you don't stand up for what's RIGHT, you'll settle for what's LEFT.)
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To: Miss Marple

I KNEW IT I KNEW IT I KNEW IT!

And I STILL believe he provided the camera and paid the 'photographer'...just wish it could be proven.

Thanks for the heads-up. (Here we go again.) I posted one last comment on the thread, but I doubt if anyone saw it...

It's a beauty! How's he going to handle this?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1151363/posts

Will you spread the word?


10 posted on 06/13/2004 5:22:29 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Read the biography 'THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD' free on pdf. Click on 'Fred Nerks')
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To: PatriotEdition
shows GIs laughing as they snap photos of each other putting hoods over Iraqi detainees.

What is the fixation about the hoods already? Big deal! I don't even have a problem with law enforcement puttin bags over the heads of east LA gangsters.

11 posted on 06/13/2004 5:23:13 PM PDT by umgud (speaking strictly as an infidel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: Hildy
It's my firm belief that Michael Moore is the guy responsible for any of the abuses at Abu Ghraib. No doubt he was paying for them all, including PFC Lynndie England's behavior!

There's gotta' be some sort of death penalty for messing with the troops in a warzone.

12 posted on 06/13/2004 5:24:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Well, I don't know about that, but what I don't understand is how this has fell onto the wayside.


13 posted on 06/13/2004 5:25:01 PM PDT by Hildy ( If you don't stand up for what's RIGHT, you'll settle for what's LEFT.)
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To: PatriotEdition; All
Michael Moore is a traitor PERIOD.
It also seems he has some sort of link to NAMBLA <a href
14 posted on 06/13/2004 5:27:15 PM PDT by olde north church (Julie, is there a rebellion?)
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To: olde north church

sorry, lost the Moore/NAMBLA link, googling for it now. It seems he is doing a documentary re: ACLU defense and such idealogues as O'Reilly and Hannity are fighting it.


15 posted on 06/13/2004 5:43:05 PM PDT by olde north church (Julie, is there a rebellion?)
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To: muawiyah; All

I'll bet if they pressed this "innocent little pfc" there would be plenty of info


16 posted on 06/13/2004 5:46:00 PM PDT by olde north church (Julie, is there a rebellion?)
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To: muawiyah
"There's gotta' be some sort of death penalty for messing with the troops in a warzone. "

Start from the top down. You know 'it's being investigated' - 'it's in the chain of command' - 'I haven't read it yet'.

Don't screw the troops.

17 posted on 06/13/2004 5:46:38 PM PDT by ex-snook (Islam's WMD is our war against the birth of children.)
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To: PatriotEdition

I'm still think Moore's footage was staged. Why would any commander in his right mind let Moore into the prison to film something so incriminating?

If it is genuine, then he is complicit in the abuses that took place, and should be prosecuted right along with the servicemen and women who participated.


18 posted on 06/13/2004 5:49:34 PM PDT by Huntress
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To: Huntress

Is it possible that it was Michael Moore himself who posed as the mysterious intelligence operative who gave all the strange orders at Abu Ghraib?


19 posted on 06/13/2004 5:53:15 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Fred Nerks
You were one of the first people I thought about when I saw this article. I am glad to see we are being vindicated in our opinions about Michael Moore.

I find it interesting that the news of this is coming out on a weekend...rather Clintonian in the dodging of news.

If this is out in the media, however, it means that there is more dirt on Moore about to come out. Otherwise, the story would be ignored.

I am keeping my fingers crossed.

20 posted on 06/13/2004 5:58:12 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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