Posted on 06/12/2004 3:52:42 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
Hello?
Remember Pearl Harbor?
I'm no fan of FDR's social programs, but we won that war. He deserves some credit for it. We're in another war now, but our present leader keeps talking about a "Religion of Peace." I don't think FDR would have done that and I KNOW Reagan would not. (Did you see any imams offering any prayers yesterday? There was a rabbi there, the absence of Islamic Swine wasn't a Christian thing. It was an American thing.)
ML/NJ
Me too and me neither. Of course we didn't have cable TV in those days, but I was surprised to hear them say that Johnson had a "State" funeral. I remember every bit of Kennedy's funeral, but I must not have bothered to watch Johnson's.
Is that serving, or servicing another president Clinton??
Is this idiot still alive?
I snickered when I saw they were doing that - I didn't watch it when it happened.
Me too and me neither. Of course we didn't have cable TV in those days, but I was surprised to hear them say that Johnson had a "State" funeral. I remember every bit of Kennedy's funeral, but I must not have bothered to watch Johnson's.
I said the same thing at Reagan's Death Noted at Belmont, and My Remebrances of Previous Presidential Deaths last Sunday. Rush said nearly the same thing this week.
ML/NJ
We had no tanks or planes. Hitler was extremely well armed. And besides, the American public was not interested in going to war -- they were isolationists too. Pearl Harbor turned everything around, and that is why some people think that FDR allowed the attack to happen -- in order to change public opinion.
"YES HE WAS!! WITH HIS MOUTH HANGING OPEN."
That was the giveaway - when his facial muscles relaxed so much that his mouth sank in. hehehe
ABC News out of business in less than 2 years and CBS News in less than 3.
What a couple of jack asses, caught in one snap.
Likely comment: Kerry - I'll hang on for another couple of weeks then hide behind my beloved's refusal to reveal her tax returns and my frauding to get the three purple hearts, let alone, throwing them away.
Then the Hag from Hell can take over, as planned.
Call this bluff. Nothing could hurt him more than for the average network viewer to see him attack the man who ended Communism.
Ted Koppell promises media attack on RWR?
Bring it on.
Now I really want RWR on Mt. Rushmore,
right next to George Washington.
Seriously. In 1942 our army was still equipped with panel delivery vans -- no armored vehicles worth anything. It took several years of round the clock work on the domestic front after we declared War to equip the Army for D Day. This country was just not ready militarily.
Our Cavalry still used horses and mules in 1942. They hadn't even invented the Jeep. They held a contest among several manufacturers to design and produce the Jeep -- the company that won the contest didn't get the order, however. They gave the order to Willys because the original designer didn't have access to the funds and manpower to produce the vehicle in time.
My husband remembers going out on Saturday mornings in Detroit to the Chrysler Proving Grounds and watching them test Sherman tanks as they rolled off the assembly line. He was probably in 1st or 2nd grade -- 1943 or 44.
My husband's father (who was older) worked for GE in the day time and operated a private machine shop in his basement at night and on Sateurdays, producing engine parts for war planes. He employed several of his neighbors, and my husband's first job was sweeping the filings off the floor of his fathers shop.
Every manufacturing process in this country was turned over to the war effort. And the farmers were required to remain farmers and to produce food for the Army. My grandmother was required to remain in the dairy business -- instead of cotton -- because the goverment needed the milk and butter. Her youngest son was told to stay home and operate the farm while lhis brothers all were drafted.
Domestic goods were rationed in order to free up products for the military. We could not buy ordinary things like butter, sugar, cigarettes, tires, gasoline, etc. witihout using ration stamps which were issued on a monthly basis. No new cars were produced in 1943 and maybe 1944 -- everything went to the military. I remember making an "oil cloth" envelope in Kindergarten and sewing it together with yarn -- a ration book cover -- for my mother. No new homes were built during the war years either. All building materials went for housing for the military and their families.
Women wore "bobby socks" because hosiery was hard to get. Department stores even had hosiery "menders" -- ladies who would sit and "darn" holes in silk stockings so that they could be worn a little longer. That is a business that had gone the way of the buggy whip!
And there was the DRAFT. If you are going to lose 7000 men in one landing, you have to build up and train a lot of men. It's not so easy to get into a war.
Nope. Can't be done. This issue has come up before. Back while he was in office, his sycophants asked the Park Service to look into the possibility of adding Clinton onto Rushmore. But they immediately ran into a snag --- it turns out that there's only room for one more face on it.
yes, poor pathetic koppel is a putrid little creep.
There is no doubt in my mind that Reagan should easily hopscotch over Teddy Roosevelt. There really is no comparison.
FDR is a tough one because of the conduct of WWII. For the most part, it was actually a brilliantly fought war and the man who presided over it should get some of that credit.
FDR should definitely lose points for failure to PLAN to keep the Soviet army out of Eastern Europe and the FAR EAST.
Reagan should lose a few points perhaps (not nearly as many) for sloppily handling the Iran Contra deal....but I agree with his fighting communism there. He should lose a few for mishandling the aftermath of the Marine Barracks bombing.
I'd call it a dead heat.
Pretty serious threat coming from the poster boy for Mad magazine.
Has there ever been anyone who held an office as exalted as Bill Clinton's, who worked as hard as Clinton does to project an image of pure goofiness? I'm thinking it has to be unprecedented.
Sigh.
I just can't imagine our populace making those kinds of sacrifices these days. Seeing what has happened since 9-11, an attack on our mainland... the ho-hum attitude of most puts me on the verge of despondence.
I disagree, based on a thorough knowlege of both men. But we agree that they are the top two. I would vote for TR being the best of the 20th based on contemporaneous consideration. He was several decades ahead of his time, and a man's man. He gave a dollar to one of his Sunday school pupils who had fought a bully who pinched the boy's sister, all the while knowing that the church would disapprove of his actions.
I strongly urge all Freepers to read anything you can get your hands on with regard to TR.
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