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Airbus inks $2bn deal with China
Business Report ^ | 061204 | N/A

Posted on 06/12/2004 1:50:11 PM PDT by Archangelsk

Paris - The European aircraft maker Airbus on Friday signed a $2 billion contract with Chinese airline China Eastern for long-haul planes but is still waiting to clinch an order for its super-jumbo A380 plane.

China Eastern chairman Ye Yigan and Airbus chief executive Noel Forgeard inked the deal for the sale of 20 A330-300 long-range planes for about two billion dollars.

The order was accompanied by a letter of intent to purchase 10 additional planes of the same type by another Chinese company that has yet to be named.

Forgeard said the sale would be worth slightly more than a billion dollars.

The orders come at an opportune time for the European aircraft maker, providing a stamp of approval to the competitiveness of its product just as it faces off against the new 7E7 Dreamliner jet by its US rival Boeing.

"The mark of confidence of China Eastern... has a value that goes beyond the contract in the context of current competition with Boeing for this type of plane," Forgeard said after a ceremony.

The deal was signed during the visit here of Chinese Vice Prime Minister Zeng Peiyan and in the presence of French Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin.

A press statement from Raffarin's office had initially said Airbus A330-200 aircraft would be sold but Airbus later made clear that the deal covered the sale of A330-300 planes.

Airbus has sold 226 planes in China since the mid-1980s, representing a share of the market that is still less than that held by Boeing in terms of all aircraft in use, but is equivalent in terms of planes sold annually for five years, a spokeswoman said.

News of the order also comes a day after the US aerospace and defence group Boeing announced it had signed up two Chinese firms to supply components for its new 7E7 Dreamliner jet aircraft.

Boeing said Friday in Beijing it expects to take 7E7 orders from China this year.

For Airbus, the sale of its future superjumbo A380 jet in China is of paramount importance.

"I think about it every day," Forgeard said on Friday.

The sale of the A380 to the Chinese authorities is a key step in the European aircraft maker's objectives for commercial aviation in the Asian giant.

"The Chinese market is 10 percent of the world market in the 20 years to come," Forgeard said.

"The dream would be for the A380 to be in service for the Olympic Games of 2008" in China, he added.

So far, Airbus has received orders and commitments for 129 A380s from 11 customers. The aircraft is scheduled to enter service in 2006.

On Friday, two accords on aeronautic cooperation also were signed, one covering the production for Airbus of aircraft doors in China while the other covers the local assembly for Eurocopter, a subsidiary of Airbus' parent company EADS, of light-weight EC120 helicopters.



TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: 330; 380; 7e7; airbus; boeing; china; trade
Sunnybich, if Boeing doesn't pull it's head out of it's arse they can kiss their civil transport business goodbye. Also, the current rumor is that Bombardier is going to develop a 115-135 passenger carrier in the near future.
1 posted on 06/12/2004 1:50:12 PM PDT by Archangelsk
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To: Aeronaut; Criminal Number 18F

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2 posted on 06/12/2004 1:50:58 PM PDT by Archangelsk (15 out of 19. The House of Saud must be driven into the desert.)
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3 posted on 06/12/2004 1:52:37 PM PDT by Aeronaut ("Fellow Americans, here lies a graceful and a gallant man." --Vice President Dick Cheney)
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To: Archangelsk
Oh please, don't be one of those "Boeing is toast" types. China will be placing a large order for the 7E7 very soon.

China needs to keep the U.S. and EU happy so they try to split orders between Airbus and Boeing.

4 posted on 06/12/2004 1:53:44 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: COEXERJ145

OK, so why are you flying a plane manufactured in Brazil? :-) Incidentally, AirTran is hiring, here's their pay structure: http://www.airlinepilotpay.com


5 posted on 06/12/2004 1:57:00 PM PDT by Archangelsk (15 out of 19. The House of Saud must be driven into the desert.)
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To: COEXERJ145

Boeing isn't toast as long as they have them there gummint contracts.


6 posted on 06/12/2004 1:58:10 PM PDT by Archangelsk (15 out of 19. The House of Saud must be driven into the desert.)
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To: COEXERJ145

Airbus will Rue the day it built the 380. It will not break them, the EU taxpayer will bail them out, but that plane will be a millstone around their neck for 20 years.


7 posted on 06/12/2004 1:58:16 PM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: Archangelsk
Boeing doesn't build true Regional Jets like Embraer does.

I picked the name because at the time ERJ's were flying to my local airport.

8 posted on 06/12/2004 1:59:35 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: Archangelsk

Boeing shipped forty percent of their manufacturing to Japan who dissed Euro-bus-Airlines recently. As another one posted, China will be making substantial purchases from Boeing as the Eurojets do not have cost effective engines (french made). US jet engines last 30% longer, 3-7% better fuel economy and cost 25% less:)


9 posted on 06/12/2004 2:00:00 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: Archangelsk

Boeing shipped forty percent of their manufacturing to Japan who dissed Euro-bus-Airlines recently. As another one posted, China will be making substantial purchases from Boeing as the Eurojets do not have cost effective engines (french made). US jet engines last 30% longer, 3-7% better fuel economy and cost 25% less:)


10 posted on 06/12/2004 2:00:01 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: CasearianDaoist

Everyone says the same thing, even me, but I'm not too sure about that recently. What prevents the 380 from being bought here is the lack of concrete and terminal space (primarily due to the eco and NIMBY crowd). China and the middle-east don't have such problems and will gladly do business with the Euros (particularly since a lot of oil is going to flow to the Dragon).


11 posted on 06/12/2004 2:01:22 PM PDT by Archangelsk (15 out of 19. The House of Saud must be driven into the desert.)
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To: Jumper

What are the specs on the high bypass that the French are developing. I've never seen them.


12 posted on 06/12/2004 2:03:27 PM PDT by Archangelsk (15 out of 19. The House of Saud must be driven into the desert.)
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To: Archangelsk
NO it is the price of gas, the operating costs and the old HUB system that makes the 380 unattactive. With all of the hidden cost even at current projections they would most likely have to sell much more then just the figure (300+ >) to break even.

They will make sales in the ME where operational cost are cheap, they are close to the UE and there is little reason to go off the Hub model. I bet all told they sell 350 of them by 2020.

If Boeing gets its act together they will eat their lunch in profitablity. They have to sink billiomns into the 380 which cannot go into other models. In any event there will be a lot of competitors. India, China and Japan will all get into the act. Boeing shares are worth twice that of EADS. Airbus really is not profitable if you factor back in the investment costs.

China has to watch what it does here. They are trying to pressure the EU to sell the,m arms. If they invest in Airbus equipment and the US keeps the embargo they will be in a very odd position. If theirmploy works, it may result in trade bans from the US. 20 planes in this period is nothing. I do not know what the truth is, but Boeing is expecting hundreds of orders in the next year.

13 posted on 06/12/2004 2:27:37 PM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: Archangelsk
I watched a documentary on the 380 the other night. I wasn't struck as much as the price tag, ($260 Million?), but at the manufacturing and delivery process. The wing had to be shipped by barge down a river with the tide just right so it would fit under the bridge. The fueslage has to travel through a small village down streets where the homes come as close as twenty inches to the parts. The villagers are not happy with having to put up with this annoyance once a week.

Just seems like a non-productive way of doing things I guess. Then again, I don't know how Boeing does it so...lol

14 posted on 06/12/2004 2:28:29 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Normal4me
I watched a documentary on the 380 the other night. I wasn't struck as much as the price tag, ($260 Million?)

No one every pays list price for an aircraft. There are always discounts. Airbus however gives much larger discounts since their loses are covered by the EU taxpayers. The way Airbus got Qantas to buy the A380 instead of more 747's and new 777's was by giving Qantas an entire fleet of A330-300's at basically no charge.

15 posted on 06/12/2004 2:31:08 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: Jumper
China will be making substantial purchases from Boeing as the Eurojets do not have cost effective engines (french made). US jet engines last 30% longer, 3-7% better fuel economy and cost 25% less:)

The fuel economy of the 7E7 is supposed to be 20% better than the plane it replaces.
This will be an increasing factor considering higher fuel prices and instability in Saudi Arabia and other oil producing nations.

Also, those I know in the Aerospace industry all say that Boeing is a much better built aircraft than Airbus.

16 posted on 06/12/2004 4:19:23 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
I understand that US Aerospace is on track to produce planes that can orbit unmanned, collect data/information like sat's and be used as fighter-bombers - all headed up by possible squadron commanders flying in shift's with them. If these baby's ever make it to high frontier, all US adversaries will be in trouble as ever communication or movement can be monitored. These ships/planes will have skin that the reshapes based on speed or elevations; not a true spacecraft but a merger of aero-space for real.

European aircraft, to make an anology, are akin to the old Soviet T72 tanks (superior for a moment) in the mid-70's and then the M1's came along and made them obsolete!

17 posted on 06/12/2004 5:15:16 PM PDT by Jumper
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