[carton253]

"However, the real Islam is not what its philosophers and mystics have inferred but what is in the Quran and that is the Islam of the fundamentalist and the terrorist."-

Dr. Ali Sina is absolutely correct...

Islam was created to be the army of God, the army of Alalh. Every single Muslim is a soldier in this army. Every single Muslim that dies in fighting for the spread of Islam is a martyr no matter how he dies, because It's not a war that stops. This war is there because it was created by Allah. Islam must be the ruler. This a war that will not end.

Now the two civilizations are not Islam and Christianity. It is Islam versus everyone else.

Peace in Islam can exist only within the Islamic world; peace can only be between Muslim and Muslim. To those who are not Muslim, there in only one solution - either domination or a cease-fire until the Muslim can grow strong enough to dominate.

[Axenolith]

I can't believe that we are having that conversation on the other thread on Johnson and you post this over here.

It's essentially my whole point and that the religion\nations need to be beaten enough to motivate the alteration\reinterpretation of the holy texts to get the "kill everyone else" parts out...

[FBD]

Carton 253: "Now the two civilizations are not Islam and Christianity. It is Islam versus everyone else.
..."Peace in Islam can exist only within the Islamic world; peace can only be between Muslim and Muslim. To those who are not Muslim, there in only one solution - either domination or a cease-fire until the Muslim can grow strong enough to dominate."

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BINGO!!! Carton nailed it.
- Mudboy Slim: Give Carton 253 a cigar, for the correct answer to the question. In fact: give him a whole carton! :^D

The question: "What is the cause and the motive behind Islamic terrorism?

It isn't because of the Palestinians, it isn't that Arabs are poor, it isn't because we are a decadent society with homsexual marriage, our meddling in their affairs, etc. And contrary to what our honorable President Bush says; It's not because they "hate our freedom."
(I used to subscribe to that theory as well.)
None of that is the reason... all that nonsense is just WINDOW DRESSING for Islamo-apologists, and the anti-American LEFT!

Now here below, is Ibn Warraq's statement on this issue.
It is EXACTLY what carton 253 just related.
- Mud, pay attention now, ya hear? :)
Warraq WAS an Arab Muslim, so he knows what in the heck he is talking about:

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Ibn Warraq- "The [Islamic]world is divided into two spheres, Dar al-Islam and Dar al-Harb. The latter, the Land of Warfare, is a country belonging to infidels which has not been subdued by Islam. The Dar al-Harb becomes the Dar-al Islam, the Land of Islam, upon the promulgation of the edicts of Islam. Thus the totalitarian nature of Islam is nowhere more apparent than in the concept of Jihad, the Holy War, whose ultimate aim is to conquer the entire world and submit it to the one true faith, to the law of Allah. To Islam alone has been granted the truth: there is no possibility of salvation outside it. Muslims must fight and kill in the name of Allah.

"We read- "Those who die fighting for the only true religion, Islam, will be amply rewarded in the life to come:"
*Sura* IV.74: “Let those who fight in the cause of God who barter the life of this world for that which is to come; for whoever fights on God’s path, whether he is killed or triumphs, We will give him a handsome reward.”

Warraq- "It is surely time for us who live in the West and enjoy freedom of expression to examine unflinchingly and unapologetically the tenets of these fanatics, including the Qur’an which divinely sanctions violence. We should unapologetically examine the life of the Prophet, who was not above political assassinations, and who was responsible for the massacre of the Jews."

“Ah, but you are confusing Islam with Islamic fundamentalism? The Real Islam has nothing to do with violence,” apologists of Islam argue.

Ibn Warraq-
"There may be moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate. There is no difference between Islam and Islamic fundamentalism: at most there is a difference of degree but not of kind. All the tenets of Islamic fundamentalism are derived from the Qur’an, the Sunna, and the **Hadith** – Islamic fundamentalism is a totalitarian construct derived by Muslim jurists from the fundamental and defining texts of Islam. The fundamentalists, with greater logic and coherence than so-called moderate or liberal Muslims, have made Islam the basis of a radical utopian ideology."

*Sura means chapter.
**Hadith means tradition.

Ibn Warraq's website on testimonials of EX- Muslims , many of whom have had their lives threatened for leaving the faith