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To: FormerLib
Didn't mark just tell us that NATO stopped the ethnic cleansing in Kosovo?

No, although that was their goal, NATO did not stop it. The Serbs forced over a million Albanians from their homes and destroyed 120,000 Albanian houses, over 600 schools and 200 mosques; all in conjunction with the human misery and suffering caused by mass murders, rapes, and robberies. However, when NATO ruled out ground troops, ruled out a punishing strategic bombing campaign, and then placed altitude and targetting restrictions on the NATO ground attack aircraft; the result was that Serb forces could continue their work for too long a period of time. Slobo eventually folded anyway and, under the protection of NATO forces, over a million Kosovar Albanians returned to what was left of their homes and towns. At that point, they were not in a charitable mood and the Kosovo Serbs took it on the chin for Slobo.

Unfortunately, NATO & UNMIK did not do much better protecting the Serbs. Most fled or were forced out of Kosovo by the end of the summer of 1999; and the remainder have lived in a state of uncertainty and fear ever since.

So, Former Lib, NATO did not stop the ethnic cleansing in Kosovo--in either direction.

10 posted on 06/12/2004 9:03:27 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf

And I see you are still quoting disproved numbers.

What, no claims of 100,000 murdered Albanians? It's the only one you missed.

Peace will return to Kosovo with the Serb Army. The only question is when they will return.


11 posted on 06/13/2004 6:58:31 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: mark502inf
Later proven that the number of million was misstated for propoganda purposes. Many of the albanians later chimed in stating they left due to NATO bombing.

That is the standard M.O in press statements, use your own words and by the way, when was the last time you were in Kosovo to speak what you write about? You rely solely on NATO/UNMIK information alone? Enlighten us, please.

12 posted on 06/14/2004 8:33:53 AM PDT by ma bell (Srebrenica! Squawk- where, oh where is RBJoe today, where oh where?)
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To: mark502inf
ALBANIAN TERRORISM IN KOSOVO AND METOHIA IN FIGURES

Actions of Albanian separatists in the territory of the Autonomous Province Kosovo and Metohia from January 01, to August 30, 1998.

During the period from January 01, to August 30, 1998 the Albanian separatists have committed altogether 1126 terrorist attacks in the territory of the AP Kosovo and Metohia. Among these, 616 terrorist attacks were committed against police officers and the objects of the Ministry of Interior of the Republic of Serbia: (Decani 234 ; Srbica 81 ; Klina 76; Djakovica 61 ; Orahovac 28; Suva Reka 27; Kosovska Mitrovica 15; Pec and Istok 13 each; Glogovac 12 ; Stimlje and Prizren 8 each; Pristina, Kijevo and Urosevac 6 each; Lipljan, Podujevo and Vucitrn 5 each; Obilic 3; Kacanik 2; Kosovo Polje and Vitina 1 each ), in which 74 police officers were killed, 166 severely wounded, 116 lightly wounded, and 10 police officers kidnapped (Orahovac 4; Decani 2 ; Pec,Glogovac, Klina and Srbica 1 each). In 600 cases the attacks were committed against the police officers while they were performing their duties (in three cases even against the helicopter of the Ministry) in 10 cases against the objects and houses of the Ministry's officers , and in 5 cases disguised armed terrorists stopped private cars.

510 terrorist attacks were committed against citizens and objects in which 81 citizens were killed, 30 Serbs and Montenegro nationality, 47 Albanians, 3 Gypsies and one unknown person (in Klina - 5 Albanians, 8 Serbs and one Gypsy; in Orahovac - 8 Serbs and 7 Albanians; in Glogovac - 5 Albanians and one Serb; in Decani - 3 Albanians and 3 Serbs; in Srbica - 3 Serb and one Albanian; in Djakovica - 8 Albanians and 3 Serbs; in Pec - 5 Albanians and 3 Serbs; Suva Reka - 7 Albanian and 1 Gypsy, Istok - 1 Serb and 2 Albanian; Lipljan,Obilic and Prizren 1 Albanian each; Kosovska Mitrovica 1 Serbs and 1 Albanian; Stimlje - one unknown person) 49 citizens were severely wounded (in Klina - 6 Serbs and 2 Albanians; in Decani- 4 Serbs, 1 Albanian and 1 muslim;in Pec - 4 Serbs and 1 Albanian; in Djakovica - 5 Albanian; in Srbica - 3 Serbs and 1 Albanian; in Obilic - 1 Serb and 2 Albanian; in Suva Reka - 2 Serbs and 1 Muslim; in Orahovac - 4 Serbs; in Vucitrn - 3 Serbs; Zubin Potok 2 Serbs; in Istok - 2 Albanians; in Glogovac 1 Serb; Podujevo - 1 Albanian and Prizren - 1 Gypsy, 47 citizens were lightly injured (23 Serbs and Montenegro nationality, 22 Albanians, 1 Gypsy and 1 Russian citizens).

The terrorists kidnapped 208 citizens (157 - Serb and Montenegro nationality, 42 - Albanian nationality who were loyal State citizens, 6 - Gypsies, 1 - Muslim, 1 - Bulgarian citizens and 1 citizen of FYR Macedonia. Among these, 16 were killed, 146 disappeared, 7 escaped, until 39 persons were released.

In individual and group attacks Albanian separatists were using automatic weapons in 592 cases, in 164 cases automatic weapons and bazookas, in 87 cases snipers, in 24 cases hand grenades, in 14 cases explosive devices, and in 6 cases pistols. In 6 cases terrorists burned a few Serbian houses, and in the rest of 230 cases the Albanian terrorist threatened to use firearms.

Besides the committed criminal acts of terrorism, in 23 cases of stopping and searching vehicles, asking for identity, such as 31 of intruding up private houses and other objects by masked and armed persons, have been charged as serious acts of terrorism.

SURVEY OF TERRORIST ATTACKS CARRIED OUT THE TERRITORY OF AUTONOMOUS PROVINCE OF KOSOVO AND METOHIA
1991 - August 30, 1998.

 

In total

1991

1992

1993

1994

1995

1996

1997

30.08.
1998

On police officers and the police buildings

706

11

11

8

3

7

19

31

616

On the refugee buildings

25

         

8

1

16

On citizens and other buildings

529

 

1

 

3

4

4

23

494

In total

1260

11

12

8

6

11

31

55

1126


CONSEQUENCES1. Killed

 

In total

1991

1992

1993

1994

1995

1996

1997

30.08.
1998.

Police officers

87

1

3

2

 

2

4

1

74

Citizens

107

     

5

4

6

11

81

In total

194

1

3

2

5

6

10

12

155


2. Wounded
 

In total

1991

1992

1993

1994

1995

1996

1997

30.08.
1998.

Grave bodily harm

263

2

8

11

2

7

3

15

215

Light bodily harm

185

2

1

1

 

2

4

12

163

In total

 

448

4

9

12

2

9

7

27

378


2.1. Police officers
 

In total

1991

1992

1993

1994

1995

1996

1997

30.08.
1998.

Grave bodily harm

201

2

5

11

1

5

3

8

166

Light bodily harm

130

2

1

1

 

2

3

5

116

In total

331

4

6

12

1

7

6

13

282


2.2. Citizens
  In total

1991

1992

1993

1994

1995

1996

1997

30.08.
1998.

Grave bodily harm

62  

3

 

1

2

 

7

49

Light bodily harm

55          

1

7

47

In total

117

0

3

0

1

2

1

14

96



TERRORIST ATTACKS ON CITIZENS OF ALBANIAN NATIONAL MINORITY - LOYAL TO THE REPUBLIC OF SERBIA
 

1991

1992

1993

1994

1995

1996

1997

30.08.
1998.

In total

Attacks in total      

2

4

2

13

226

247


CONSEQUENCES
 

In total

1991

1992

1993

1994

1995

1996

1997

30.08.
1998

Killed

64

     

2

4

1

10

47

Grave bodily harm

22

       

2

 

4

16

Light bodily harm

25

         

1

2

22

In total

111

0

0

0

2

6

2

16

85

 


14 posted on 06/14/2004 9:29:30 AM PDT by ma bell (Srebrenica! Squawk- where, oh where is RBJoe today, where oh where?)
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To: mark502inf
these acts were done prior to the NATO bombing, and you wonder why the Serb defensive forces fought back?

Village of Glodjane, September 8th 1998. Six mass graves and execution grounds, where Albanian terrorists murdered Serbian civilians, were found near the village of Glodjane. According to the testimonies given by the apprehended Albanian terrorists, members of the KLA brought kidnapped Serbian civilians to the banks of the channel connecting Bistrica River and Radonjic Lake, shot them and dumped their bodies into the channel. Several other shallow graves were discovered near Glodjane, with mutilated, beheaded or castrated bodies. By September 13th, bodies of 37 Serb civilians were discovered


15 posted on 06/14/2004 10:03:08 AM PDT by ma bell (Srebrenica! Squawk- where, oh where is RBJoe today, where oh where?)
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