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Soldiers Reflect on Carrying Reagan's Casket
DoD-AFPS ^ | June 10, 2004 | Kathleen T. Rhem

Posted on 06/10/2004 10:43:14 AM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl

American Forces Press Service 

Soldiers Reflect on Carrying Reagan's Casket

By Kathleen T. Rhem
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, June 10, 2004 – When Justin Rogers and Travis Sullivan were born, Ronald Reagan was president of the United States.

A joint-service honor guard transfers former President Ronald Reagan's casket from a hearse to a caisson during a historic ceremony in Washington June 9. Army Spc. Travis Sullivan, from "The Old Guard" ceremonial unit, is at the left rear. Photo by Petty Officer 2nd Class Samuel Shavers, USN
(Click photo for screen-resolution image); high-resolution image available.

The evening of June 9, these two young men, now both Army specialists in the prestigious ceremonial unit, "The Old Guard," were members of the team that carried Reagan's casket up the steps and into the U.S. Capitol.

"I was kind of young (when Reagan was president), but all of my family members told me what a great job he did for our country," Rogers said in an interview at Fort Myer, Va., just moments before their unit, Company E, 3rd U.S. Infantry, departed for downtown to perform their solemn duties. "It's quite an honor."

Sullivan called it "a heck of an honor" to be participating in Reagan's funeral. "He's definitely one of the best presidents we've had in the history of the nation."

Both soldiers were out of town visiting family when they got "the call." But neither needed to wait for the Army to tell them; as soon as they heard Reagan had died, both knew they would be called to duty.

Rogers was visiting his parents in New Jersey June 5 when he heard Reagan had died. When the phone rang an hour and a half later, "I told my parents, … 'That's the Army calling right there. I've got to go back,'" he said.

Sullivan had returned to Wisconsin to see his younger sister graduate from high school. He was working the fields on his parents' dairy farm when the Army reached him.

Sullivan originally was scheduled to be part of the team that flew to California to carry Reagan's casket during official honors there. But he couldn't get a flight out of Wisconsin soon enough to depart for California, and ended up on the Washington-based team instead.

Both men said their parents were extremely proud to have their sons participate in honoring a deceased president.

"My mom was ecstatic," Rogers said. "(She) started crying right there."

Sullivan said his parents thought the honor was "the greatest thing since sliced bread."

The ceremonial movement of Reagan's remains consisted of several steps. A hearse, surrounded by a motorcade, carried the casket from Andrews Air Force Base, Md., to the Ellipse in front of the White House. There, an honor guard transferred the casket to a horse-drawn caisson for the trip up Constitution Avenue to the U.S. Capitol. Sullivan was part of this honor guard.

The eight-man team -- consisting of two soldiers, two sailors, two Marines, an airman and a Coast Guardsman -– marched with the caisson, then carried the casket up the first set of steps of the Capitol.

That is where the logistics got tricky. Because the Capitol has so many steps – reportedly 99 – and the casket weighs about 720 pounds, a second team took over during the casket's journey up the steps. Rogers was a member of this second team.

At the top of the steps, the first team took over again and carried the casket into the Rotunda for the fallen president to lie in state.

The process will be performed in reverse June 11 when Reagan's body is moved to Washington's National Cathedral for a state funeral.

The joint-service nature of this event created an extra challenge for the team members. Each service has its own procedures for funerals and other ceremonial functions. Pretty much every waking hour between June 6 and June 9's event were spent practicing, the team members said.

The troops even practiced going up and down the Capitol steps with a 700-pound casket, with the rehearsals generally lasting late into the night. On June 7 they were at the Capitol steps until midnight. The next night, the practice lasted until 2 a.m.

Both soldiers said this funeral is the largest in scope they've ever participated in, and both were mindful of the worldwide television coverage they'd be part of.

Rogers noted his mother would be watching her television with baited breath. "Trust me," he said with a chuckle, "she's called everyone up she works with, my grandparents, everybody."

Sullivan said the key to containing his nerves is to take it one step at a time. "One day at a time, one rehearsal at a time," he said. "Hopefully today goes off well so we can honor (Reagan) the way he should be honored.

Rogers' and Sullivan's day-to-day job is to be part of the ceremonial detail that performs funerals for veterans in Arlington National Cemetery. "Technically this is like everything we do … every day," he said. "But this is in front of God and country; it's a lot bigger scale."

Despite the scope of the event and the late president's prominence, the soldiers said Reagan would receive the same amount of respect they pay to every veteran whose funeral they perform in Arlington National Cemetery.

"As far as … the amount of respect we pay, it's just the same as everyone else," Sullivan said. "(Fallen service members are) all worthy of the same respect. That's what we preach to each other; that's what we strive to do."

Rogers said he feels a connection with every veteran whose funeral he participates in. "I feel like they're my brothers," he said. "They're my brothers in arms. It's a great honor doing funerals, no matter whose funeral it is.

"They served their country," he continued. "And in the end, I'm putting them back in the ground, showing them that respect. It's the last thing that the family sees."

Army Spc. Justin Rogers, a member of Company E, 3rd U.S. Infantry, is interviewed by Cara Hunt of the Pentagon Channel at Fort Myer, Va., shortly before he participated as an honorary pallbearer for former President Ronald Reagan June 9. Photo by Kathleen T. Rhem
Cara Hunt of the Pentagon Channel interviews Army Spc. Travis Sullivan, an honorary pallbearer during ceremonies June 9 honoring former President Ronald Reagan. Photo by Kathleen T. Rhem
Army Spc. Travis Sullivan, a member of the Army's ceremonial "The Old Guard," poses for a photo outside his unit's headquarters at Fort Myer, Va., June 9. Photo by Kathleen T. Rhem
Army Spcs. Justin Rogers, left, and Travis Sullivan discuss the day's momentous events shortly before they departed to carry the remains of President Ronald Reagan into the U.S. Capitol June 9 to lie in state. Both soldiers are members of Company E, 3rd U.S. Infantry. Photo by Kathleen T. Rhem
Army Spcs. Justin Rogers (left) and Travis Sullivan step out of their unit's headquarters before departing to carry the remains of President Ronald Reagan into the U.S. Capitol to lie in state. Both soldiers are members of Company E, 3rd U.S. Infantry. Photo by Kathleen T. Rhem


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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

I love a man in uniform !!!


21 posted on 06/10/2004 11:18:57 AM PDT by Rainmist (America ! America ! God shed His grace on thee !!)
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To: McGavin999

one misstep - moving the casket onto the base in the Rotunda, one guy almost tripped going around the side, regained his footing and carefully moved ahead.


22 posted on 06/10/2004 11:19:05 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

What a great story. My oldest brother had a military funeral and one of the honor guard started crying. He was not allowed to wipe away the tears. We thought he was a personal friend but found out later that he wasn't. What great young men these are.


23 posted on 06/10/2004 11:20:31 AM PDT by Texagirl4W (If President Bush loses the 2004 election because of his stand on abortion, he is still the winner.)
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To: AZamericonnie
Those Marines are probably part of the World Famous Body Bearers.

Kudos to The Old Guard. They also guard the Tomb of the Unknowns. If I'd joined the Army instead of the Marines, I'd have joined The Old Guard Fife and Drum Corps.

24 posted on 06/10/2004 11:21:27 AM PDT by Ed Straker (...'And smash him'... - W. E. Fairbairn)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

They were awesome- in the true sense of that word- last night.


25 posted on 06/10/2004 11:25:25 AM PDT by brothers4thID (Saying Dr. Rice hadn't heard of Al Queda is like saying Dr. Ruth hadn't heard about sex)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Great story. I was just telling my Dad yesterday what a great job they did. . . and we wondered if they got any time to practice.


26 posted on 06/10/2004 11:26:57 AM PDT by Flyer (new tagline placeholder)
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To: Serb5150

Our guys are the BEST.


27 posted on 06/10/2004 11:33:52 AM PDT by jwfiv
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Thanks for posting.

I took the high-resolution photo in the article and put it into my WebShots screen saver. Fantastic.


28 posted on 06/10/2004 11:45:58 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: american_ranger

Do you know what town in Wisconsin Spc Sullivan hails from?


29 posted on 06/10/2004 11:53:05 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (Charter member Broken Glass Republicans (2000))
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To: AZamericonnie
The Marine front & right of the caisson was fascinating to watch, he had an incredible stride that never broke the whole way.

I also noticed this. He made it look effortless.

30 posted on 06/10/2004 11:57:29 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("Nothing wrong with shooting as long as the right people get shot" - Dirty Harry)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; xsmommy
Excellent article. These guys did a heck of a job !! I was impressed.

Thanks for the post and pings ! :^D


31 posted on 06/10/2004 12:04:57 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Call me the Will Rogers voter: I never met a Democrat I didn't like - to vote OUT OF POWER !)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

This something that their familes will be talking about generations from now.

What an honor!


32 posted on 06/10/2004 12:21:31 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Steven W.

The Rotunda was tough for the bearers. The base of the platform for the casket flaired out so much that the bearers had to extend their arms too much for the weight they were carrying. Did an excellent job! I was watching this on Fox, and after the one bearer almost tripped the camera operator cut away just in case there was a stumble.


33 posted on 06/10/2004 12:23:46 PM PDT by Strzelec
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To: MeekOneGOP

As I watched the military perform the flyover, the 21 gun salute, the band playing and the men carrying the coffin up all those stairs, I thought "America's military IS the best of the best of the best!"


34 posted on 06/10/2004 12:25:19 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: darkwing104

bttt


35 posted on 06/10/2004 1:02:16 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

As a proud soon-to-be Coast Guard sister, I was very pleased to see Coasties carrying the casket and serving as honor guards along with the other services.

My brother was born towards the end of the Reagan administration - I myself was born only a month after his first Inauguration. Neither of us knew a world without him as our President.


36 posted on 06/10/2004 1:09:04 PM PDT by Rubber_Duckie_27
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl

Great story!


37 posted on 06/10/2004 1:23:14 PM PDT by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: Rubber_Duckie_27

You must be about the same age as my youngest daughter! She was born at the end of March of that year. In fact, I was getting ready to go home from the hospital when the assasination attempt happened! I saw people running down the hall to the waiting area where there was a tv. It was a frightening time in the middle of an otherwise joyous time! Thankfully, he survived and pulled through!


38 posted on 06/10/2004 2:33:37 PM PDT by dsutah
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; kjfine; Old Sarge

Hooah Ping!


39 posted on 06/10/2004 3:44:00 PM PDT by StarCMC (Please pray for the 2/7 Marines and Josh.)
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