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Affirmative action debate results in scuffle on Michigan House floor (BOTH ARE DEMOCRATS)
AP ^ | 6-9-04 | Amy F Bailey

Posted on 06/09/2004 6:18:23 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan

Affirmative action debate results in scuffle on Michigan House floor

By AMY F. BAILEY
The Associated Press
6/9/2004, 8:39 p.m. ET

LANSING, Mich. (AP) — A debate over affirmative action in the state House Wednesday night resulted in a scuffle between two Democrats.

The incident happened in the House chambers after the Republican-controlled House narrowly approved next year's higher education budget that included an amendment to prevent universities from receiving any state funding if they give preferential treatment to applicants.

The brief scuffle between Rep. Morris Hood, D-Detroit, and Alan Canady, House Minority Leader Dianne Byrum's chief of staff, was the result of concern among some Democrats that the caucus had not done enough to stop the affirmative action amendment.

It was approved on a 57-44 vote. Eight representatives didn't vote.

Hood grabbed at Canady who reacted by pushing back. The two were quickly separated by House sergeants and other representatives.

Byrum, D-Onondaga, only said that the issue caused emotions to boil over.

"It looked a lot more inflamed than what it was," she said.

Just before the incident, the House voted 55-48 to approve the overall $1.7 billion higher education budget for the fiscal year that begins Oct. 1. That's the minimum number of votes needed for approval in the House where there are 110 members and one vacancy.

Six representatives didn't vote on the overall budget.

The amendment added to the spending plan targets the University of Michigan, which considers race in its application process, but does not award points to help get accepted.

Democratic Rep. Julie Dennis of Muskegon called the amendment racist.

Republican House Speaker Rick Johnson quickly pointed out four Democrats voted for the affirmative action amendment: Steve Bieda of Warren, Jennifer Elkins of Lake, Matt Gillard of Alpena and Lisa Wojno of Warren. But all four voted against the overall budget.

"They've got to be calling them racist too," said Johnson, of LeRoy.

Fifty-three Republicans also voted for the amendment. Thirty-eight Democrats voted against it, along with six Republicans: Sandy Caul of Mount Pleasant, Doug Hart of Rockford, Charles LaSata of St. Joseph, Mike Pumford of Newaygo, John Stewart of Northville, and Lorence Wenke of Richland.

Eight representatives didn't vote, including four Republicans: Brian Palmer of Romeo, Scott Shackleton of Sault Ste. Marie, Glenn Steil Jr. of Cascade and Gary Woronchak of Dearborn. Four Democrats who didn't vote were: Glenn Anderson of Westland, Ken Daniels of Detroit, Doug Spade of Adrian and Jack Minore of Flint.

Some lawmakers dismissed the amendment, saying it is unconstitutional because Michigan's 15 public universities are autonomous and lawmakers can't set conditions for state funding.

But Rep. Leon Drolet, a Republican from Macomb County's Clinton Township who introduced the amendment, stood by the measure.

"It allows for equal treatment under the law," he said.

The budget bill returns to the Senate for its consideration of changes made by the House. It's expected to end up in a House-Senate conference committee where the two chambers can hammer out their differences.

The higher education spending plan also includes a measure allowing universities to raise their tuition rates by an average 4.2 percent.

It allows universities to increase tuition by 3 percent, or $250 per student, whichever is greater, for the school year that begins this fall.

That's a higher increase than a previous agreement that allowed universities to avoid any cuts in their state funding in the upcoming fiscal year if they kept tuition increases to the rate of inflation, or 2.8 percent, when the new school year starts this fall.

Universities that agreed to the tuition pledge were to get back 3 percent of the 5 percent reduction they saw in an executive order Gov. Jennifer Granholm issued last year to balance this year's budget.

Republican Rep. Sandy Caul of Mount Pleasant, chairwoman of the House Appropriations Higher Education Subcommittee, recommended the higher tuition increase cap to help universities handle recent cuts in their state funding.

Mike Boulus of the President's Council, which represents Michigan's 15 public universities, said members of his organization are looking to lawmakers to keep their promise to restore funding to universities who signed off on last year's tuition agreement.

"We're looking for as much as flexibility as possible on the tuition side," he said.

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The higher ed budget is Senate Bill 1067.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; budget; byrum; canady; hood
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1 posted on 06/09/2004 6:18:27 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan

BTW, for what it's worth, both men are black.


2 posted on 06/09/2004 6:22:15 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: Dan from Michigan

"Democratic Rep. Julie Dennis of Muskegon called the amendment racist."


Well of course she did.


3 posted on 06/09/2004 6:23:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Both of them are to be commended for closely following one of the more ancient traditions in debating. Not everything has been lost... not everything. More power to them (pun intended).


4 posted on 06/09/2004 6:24:10 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Dan from Michigan
The brief scuffle between Rep. Morris Hood, D-Detroit, and Alan Canady, House Minority Leader Dianne Byrum's chief of staff, was the result of concern among some Democrats that the caucus had not done enough to stop the affirmative action amendment.

Leftist bias alert!!!!

Oh sure, the scuffle is because of Democrat concern ;)

5 posted on 06/09/2004 6:29:45 PM PDT by Frohickey
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To: Numbers Guy

I knew Hood was, didn't know if Canady was.


6 posted on 06/09/2004 6:29:55 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Mr. Gorbachev - Tear down this wall" - Ronald Reagan - 1911-2004)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Doug Hart has lost it, his votes have been increasingly liberal/moderate


7 posted on 06/09/2004 6:47:51 PM PDT by apackof2 (Kind words are like honey-sweet to the soul and healthy for the body Pro.16:24)
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To: Dan from Michigan

I love hearng Dim-speak: "Not considering race is racist."


8 posted on 06/09/2004 7:10:58 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: Dan from Michigan

"The amendment added to the spending plan targets the University of Michigan, which considers race in its application process, but does not award points to help get accepted."



No, the University doesn't "award points," it merely determines that it "needs" to admit X black candidates to achieve a "critical mass" of black students, then sees what standards for grades and standardized test scores would allow them to admit enough black students to equal about 110% of whatever number X is, then declares that all of the students who meet that standard are "equally qualified" to be admitted, and then admits 90% of the black applicants and maybe like 20% of the white applicants. Funny that the liberal reporter chose to describe such a blatant quota system with such innocuous words.


9 posted on 06/09/2004 7:11:08 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Democrats in a fistfight over who can waste more tax money on racist entitlement programs. How novel.


10 posted on 06/09/2004 7:23:08 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Any day you wake up is a good day.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Because they are 'RATS, they will blame this on Reagan/Bush and all Republicans... I mean after all Reagan's funeral was going on and his racist spirit pervaded the air all the way to the Michigan State House!

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11 posted on 06/09/2004 7:29:51 PM PDT by Chieftain (To all who serve and support those who serve - thank you!)
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To: Dan from Michigan

I'm curious to find out why Charles LaSata voted against the amendment against preferential treatment. He is a candidate for a Berrien County Circuit Court Judge position.. We certainly don't need someone who believes in preferential treatment to be judging and sentencing people based on race etc.

StrokerAce


12 posted on 06/09/2004 7:31:22 PM PDT by StrokerAce
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To: Dan from Michigan
When will it become public knowledge that "higher education" is a government subsidized socialist cottage industry scam?
Why must any tax dollars be spent on it in the first place?
I am not opposed to continuing education, but I wonder why I have to pay for it in tax dollars.
If tuition fees do not cover actual education costs, why do my taxes have to make up the difference?

What benefits are we who pay taxes actually getting for the expenditures? The privilege of two hour waits at a physicians office for a scheduled appointment? The high cost of newly invented and mostly worthless drugs? The availability of legal expertise?
13 posted on 06/09/2004 7:33:52 PM PDT by sarasmom (Sometimes, I wish liberals had beliefs, so I could desecrate them. (spok))
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To: apackof2

I think Hart is term limited, which would explain it.


14 posted on 06/09/2004 7:46:12 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Mr. Gorbachev - Tear down this wall" - Ronald Reagan - 1911-2004)
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To: Dan from Michigan

so he is actually a RINO


15 posted on 06/09/2004 7:50:14 PM PDT by apackof2 (Kind words are like honey-sweet to the soul and healthy for the body Pro.16:24)
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To: Numbers Guy
BTW, for what it's worth, both men are black.

I can't wait until the blacks have to move over for the Mexicans, and there are plenty of illegals in Michigan, and more coming.

16 posted on 06/10/2004 6:05:40 AM PDT by swampfox98 ( Is Vincente Fox our President yet?)
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