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'Keep the Cross, Remove the Democrats,' Protestors Say
CNSNEWS.com ^ | Susan Jones

Posted on 06/09/2004 6:20:06 AM PDT by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - More than a thousand angry citizens went to a Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors meeting on Tuesday, but despite their efforts, county supervisors refused to reverse their decision to remove a small cross from the county's official seal.

The ACLU threatened to sue the county if it did not remove the Christian cross -- which symbolizes California's missionary history. On Tuesday, as protestors waved signs, the Board of Supervisors voted 3-2 to uphold its earlier decision that the cross must go.

Press reports said Tuesday's meeting was standing room only, drawing the largest crowd to attend a meeting in many years.

Christians weren't the only ones waving signs. According to the Los Angeles Daily News, some of the signs read "Jews for the L.A. County Seal," "Buddhists for the Seal," and "Stop the ACLU Nazis."

'Arrogance'

"If people want to keep the cross, they need to remove the Democrats," said the Campaign for California Families, a conservative group that mobilized support for keeping the cross in the county seal.

CCF noted that all three people voting to remove the cross were Democrats. The two who voted to keep the cross were Republicans.

In two-and-a-half hours of public testimony, virtually all the speakers favored keeping the cross, CCF said.

"Those who don't respect the Constitution are doing everything in their power to remove Christian values in society," said Randy Thomasson, CCF executive director. "When our founding fathers wrote, 'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,' they didn't mean to yank crosses off public property."

Thomasson argues that the First Amendment prohibits Congress from creating an official state denomination, such as the Church of England in Great Britain.

"While the establishment clause was narrowly written to prohibit an official 'Church of the United States,' the free-exercise clause -- "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" -- was meant to guarantee the free flow of religious expression everywhere else," Thomaason said.

"This freedom includes the right of federal, state, and local governments to respect and promote Christian symbols such as the cross, or other religious values the people hold dear. It's the American way."

Thomasson called Tuesday's vote a demonstration of "anti-Christian arrogance" in Los Angeles.

"Given that Democrats are the only ones attacking the cross, it's obvious that if people want to keep the cross, they need to remove the Democrats," he said.

The American Civil Liberties Union says the Establishment Clause "requires the separation of church and state," and it opposes the use of any religious symbol or speech on public property.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aclu; churchandstate; losangles
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To: kattracks

I remember hearing just recently on Hugh Hewitt that it wasnt the US constitution that requires seperation of church and state, but rather the now defunct but apparently returning SOVIET UNION constitution, I cant remember the section or article but its there. The US constitution simply forbids a state established religion...


21 posted on 06/09/2004 7:17:40 AM PDT by intenseracer
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To: kattracks
There goes the crosswalks.
22 posted on 06/09/2004 7:18:08 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Reagan, a giant who walked amoung midgets in Washington)))
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To: kattracks; I still care
here are some pics of the rally: HERE
23 posted on 06/09/2004 7:24:26 AM PDT by MindFire
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To: kattracks; All
In her 22-page ruling announced Wednesday [ed: 12/13/03], U.S. District Judge Phyllis Hamilton said Excelsior is not indoctrinating students about Islam when it requires them to adopt Muslim names and pray to Allah as part of a history and geography class, but rather is just teaching them about the Muslim religion.
Complete Article

24 posted on 06/09/2004 7:28:32 AM PDT by olde north church (Julie, is there a rebellion?)
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To: SpinyNorman
The the expatriate Russian lady down the hall say the old Soviet government over there removed religious symbols from every thing and the political office of your division would have you removed if you seemed religious. She believes this country is headed in that direction.
25 posted on 06/09/2004 7:37:16 AM PDT by oyez (¡Desea vivo el revolutuin de Reagan!)
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To: skeeter
As Chief Justice of the Court of the People, I hereby declare the DemocRAT party to be Unconstitutional and order that it be dissolved forthwith. The bombing begins in 5 minutes.

I nominate this for post of the day !

26 posted on 06/09/2004 7:54:46 AM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: hapy
How do we fight them?

Choke off the money. But if they don't knock it off, it will be from the rooftops.
27 posted on 06/09/2004 7:58:08 AM PDT by wasp69 (Fair winds and following seas, Mr. President. We shall all see you soon.....)
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To: Piquaboy
It is about time that someone stood up to the American Communist Liberties Union.

There's nothing American about it. Nor do they promote liberty, which requires personal responsibility to flourish. The real name is the Atheist's Communist Libertine Union.

28 posted on 06/09/2004 8:07:38 AM PDT by Excuse_Me
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To: kattracks

We need to make space for the rainbow, or maybe for the crescent.


29 posted on 06/09/2004 8:11:26 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: Enterprise
As Chief Justice of the Court of the People, I hereby declare the DemocRAT party to be Unconstitutional and order that it be dissolved forthwith.

Thank you Mr. Chief Justice. Next on the docket: What to do about Hillary!

30 posted on 06/09/2004 8:23:56 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: kattracks

Be sure, dear readers, to see "Delphi Technique" and "Alinsky Method" on your google or yahoo browser, to see how "democratic" our leftist friends are. Think it "can't happen" in your fair city? Think again.


31 posted on 06/09/2004 8:38:01 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: skeeter
"The bombing begins in 5 minutes."

He had so many great lines, and I loved that one!

32 posted on 06/09/2004 8:46:44 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: FourtySeven
"What to do about Hillary!"

There is nothing that will dissolve that lump of waste, so I have to risk war and exile her to France.

33 posted on 06/09/2004 8:48:12 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: TonyRo76
"Aye!"

Motion passes. The DemocRAT party is hereby dissolved and all assets are hereby donated to the homeless and drug addicts.

34 posted on 06/09/2004 8:50:52 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: kattracks

---"Given that Democrats are the only ones attacking the cross, it's obvious that if people want to keep the cross, they need to remove the Democrats," he said.---

We recalled the last Democrat governor. How difficult can a few supervisors be?


35 posted on 06/09/2004 9:02:39 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: TonyRo76

The Ayes have it.


36 posted on 06/09/2004 9:26:59 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Everything that really matters I learned from a song when I was 3. Jesus Loves Me!)
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To: olde north church

"You shall worship no other God..." That is a sin. Would a muslim worship the true God as part of a class? I think not.


37 posted on 06/09/2004 10:08:38 AM PDT by jerri
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To: MindFire

Excellent posters! I got a few ideas to keep in mind.


39 posted on 06/09/2004 11:38:18 AM PDT by I still care
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To: hapy

"Why do we allow the ACLU to destroy us.

How do we fight them?"

60 Senate seats and a majority in the Supreme Court.

That is the only way you beat them.



40 posted on 06/09/2004 11:50:32 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Only difference between the liberals and the Nazis is that the liberals love the Communists.)
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