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Libs: Clinton More Popular Than Reagan
NewsMax.com ^ | 6/08/04 | Carl Limbacher and the NewsMax.com staff

Posted on 06/08/2004 2:03:13 PM PDT by kattracks

Frustrated liberals, angry at having to spend an entire week watching the nation pay tribute to the man they derided alternately as "an amiable dunce" and a heartless autocrat, are now claiming that Bill Clinton was actually a more popular president than Ronald Reagan.

"In truth, Ronald Reagan was never as popular as he is being presented to be with Americans," writes Slate Magazine's Eric Alterman.

"As president, [he] was never even as popular as Bill Clinton during the period of Clinton’s impeachment," argues the disgruntled Democrat.

For evidence, Alterman cites a Gallup poll that tracks approval ratings for Clinton, Reagan, Carter and both Bushes to back his claims. The same poll is touted prominently on Democrats.com, a web site run by former Clinton White House staffers and DNC veterans.

Unfortunately for Alterman and the rest of the Reagan-haters, some of us still remember what the voters said when they actually got a chance to make their will known at the polls.

Clinton, for instance, never won more than 49 percent of the vote, managing that feat in 1996. And he probably never would have been president at all without Ross Perot acting as a Republican spoiler in 1992, when Clinton squeaked in with just 43 percent of the vote.

Reagan, on the other hand, trounced his two Democratic opponents in 44 and 49 state landslides.

In fact, no president in U.S. history has ever gotten more votes than Reagan did in 1984, despite the fact that the nation's population has grown by more than 30 million in the last twenty years.



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: alterman; ericalterman; impeachedx42; ronaldreagan
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To: kattracks

the klintoons will forever be remembered as lying, cheating, backstabbing, murdering, slime scum, perverts with NO redeeming qualities.


61 posted on 06/08/2004 3:45:56 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: kattracks

"In truth, Ronald Reagan was never as popular as he is being presented to be with Americans," writes Slate Magazine's Eric Alterman.

 

 

Consider the source.

62 posted on 06/08/2004 3:47:48 PM PDT by Fintan (RWR 1911-2004)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

True true. Reagan is an icon and an inspiration to a movement and a generation of young conservatives, President Bush, and even Clinton (welfare reform). Reagan still inspires and helps Republicans win elections, but the Democrats won't let Clinton touch them without ten foot pole!

How many Republicans out there respect Clinton? Few if any
How many Democrats out there at least respect Reagan or acknowledge that he's a man of character? A great many.

A good test of popularity is how much respect your enemies give you.


63 posted on 06/08/2004 3:48:29 PM PDT by the right side jedi
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To: JPJones

Rush Limbaugh said today that "Bill" Clinton (an alias) is the only former president who has declined to make funeral arrangements. See, Clinton does not believe that he will die but will somehow escape at the end; it's a lesson the liberal Senate taught him.


64 posted on 06/08/2004 3:49:20 PM PDT by Theodore R. (When will they ever learn?)
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To: kattracks

Clinton is more recent than Reagan, so is better known these days. A lot of people are too young to personally remember the malaise that lay over the land before Reagan's time.


65 posted on 06/08/2004 3:52:01 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: Robert_Paulson2

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NEVER FORGET

You have just summarized my conversation with LARRY ELDER during his remote Talk Radio Show broadcast from the REAGAN Library yesterday.

A now passed on REAGAON1 will re-elect BUSH2 right on passed a barely breathing KERRY.

Just like REAGAN Election Eve Letter to the American People announcing that he had Alzheimer's Disease helped bring on the 1994 Republican takeover of Congress.

No greater LOVE hath a man...

.


66 posted on 06/08/2004 3:53:42 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: Robert_Paulson2

Very, very well said!


67 posted on 06/08/2004 3:56:37 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Pres Reagan...your memory and impact have not dimmed...only aged and grown stronger!)
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To: kattracks

They sound like children...*my daddy can beat your daddy*....I hate rats!


68 posted on 06/08/2004 3:57:19 PM PDT by mystery-ak (*They are all Pat Tillman's*........Rush)
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To: JPJones
Well, when Clinton dies I hope he is shown the same regard as a former President as he showed for the office when he occupied it.

He deserves no less. And no more...
69 posted on 06/08/2004 4:09:18 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: kattracks

They are confused about the relief that will be felt when BJ dies. Yes, his death will be popular, in deed.


70 posted on 06/08/2004 4:17:59 PM PDT by Ruth A.
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To: Lizavetta
When Clinton dies the crowds at his casket will be those wanting to make damn sure he's dead.

Actually, that could be quite a turnout.

71 posted on 06/08/2004 4:19:45 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (God Bless Ronald Reagan!)
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To: kattracks
Headlines when clinton croaks...

SUNDAY: "President bill clinton died today".
MONDAY: "bill, who?"



The media could spend a month talking about and praising all the acheivements of Ronald Reagan, and the public outpouring is almost endless.

What will they talk about when clinton croaks? er, Monica? Impeachment? Bombing aspirin factories? Crooked land deals in Arkansas? Ron Brown?

clinton has NO LEGACY...at least one that can be discussed in mixed company.

clinton is popular with potheads, homosexuals, feminists, and environuts...and that's about it.
72 posted on 06/08/2004 4:31:29 PM PDT by FrankR
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To: Lizavetta
Or those who want to p*** on his coffin.

Oh please, Lord, may it be soon.

73 posted on 06/08/2004 4:51:54 PM PDT by doberville (Angels can fly when they take themselves lightly)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
The most decent thing clinton could do (an oxymoron, I know) would be to be absent on a short notice, due to... salmonella indisposition, or some other such pretext. It should be easy to concoct one, and no one would start digging.
74 posted on 06/08/2004 4:53:39 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: kattracks

I have a question for the parents here. Are you teaching your children that the most important thing in life is to be popular? Think about that and I think we'll start to realize how silly this whole line of reasoning is.
I have never read a history book that dwelled on how popular a president was in his time. This isn't to say that Ronald Reagan wasn't popular. Other posters here have more that addressed that. But someone like Abraham Lincoln was pretty unpopular among a lot of people in his time and I think history has been pretty kind to him.


75 posted on 06/08/2004 5:01:54 PM PDT by Hostile ("Freedom is not the sole perogative of a chosen few; it is the universal right of all God's children)
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To: kattracks

Well .. I'd like to see Reagan's personal approval numbers (not job approval) when Reagan left office.

CLINTON'S PERSONAL APPROVAL NUMBER WHEN HE LEFT OFFICE IN JANUARY 2001 WAS TWENTY-FIVE PERCENT (25%). I'm sure Reagan could do better than that ..?? In fact, I'd guess most other president could do better than that, except for Jimmy Carter.


76 posted on 06/08/2004 5:23:52 PM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: Lizavetta
When Clinton dies the crowds at his casket will be those wanting to make damn sure he's dead.

Not necessarily. Some may be there because they need bladder relief.

77 posted on 06/08/2004 5:26:40 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (This is your brain. This is your brain on liberalism. Any questions?)
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To: AmishDude
What's funny is that Reagan could have won Minnesota, but didn't want to campaign seriously there to embarass Mondale totally.

That's right. His campaign people calculated that he was so close in Minnesota that all it would take is one or two quick visits by him there to win that state too. The aides were giddy at the thought of a clean 50-state sweep - an absolutely unprecedented scenario in modern times (not seen since the earliest days of the republic). But he overrode them and refused to go there, because he didn't want to completely humiliate Mondale. That's the kind of human being he was.

Ahh ..... I still fondly remember flipping the TV channels that night, cycling between Gunga Dan and the others. I just couldn't get enough of watching their long faces as they tried hard not to cry. That was always my favorite part of election nights back then.

78 posted on 06/08/2004 5:36:05 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (This is your brain. This is your brain on liberalism. Any questions?)
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To: Jeff Head
Exactly right on your points.

Clinton never won more than 46 % of the popular vote.

Reagan would have cleaned his clock.

The biggest difference between Reagan and slick willie is that Reagan cared not for himself but the country, clinton cared not for his country, but himself.

79 posted on 06/08/2004 5:47:40 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: kattracks

These people really are sick in their attempt to prop up the sink emperor, aren't they? Does anyone have this twits email addy?


80 posted on 06/08/2004 5:50:46 PM PDT by wasp69 (Fair winds and following seas, Mr. President. We shall all see you soon.....)
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