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Education school aims to address multicultural crisis
Oregon Daily Emerald ^ | June 7, 2004 | Chelsea Duncan

Posted on 06/08/2004 8:55:41 AM PDT by Modernman

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You gotta love it. A Career counselor tells students that they need to have a firm handshake and good eye contact in job interviews and that leads to a crisis of multiculturalism, whatever the hell that means. It's amazing the issues people concern themselves with.
1 posted on 06/08/2004 8:55:43 AM PDT by Modernman
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Well it would be if it were only themselves that they were concerned with.
2 posted on 06/08/2004 8:57:28 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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At the conference, students in the college learned the importance of firm handshakes and direct eye contact when meeting with potential employers. When a student of color raised concerns that her culture does not encourage such interactions, a comment by Springfield school district's Director of Human Resources Roger Jordan was perceived to be culturally insensitive.

Jordan said he had explained what he calls "the blemish effect," which is something that might distract a potential employer during the interviewing process, such as cultural differences. He said the meaning was misconstrued and that he did not intend to propose that the student's culture was a "blemish."

This has GOT to be a Monty Python skit...

3 posted on 06/08/2004 8:58:30 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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4 posted on 06/08/2004 8:59:05 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("Nothing wrong with shooting as long as the right people get shot" - Dirty Harry)
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At the conference, students in the college learned the importance of firm handshakes and direct eye contact when meeting with potential employers. When a student of color raised concerns that her culture does not encourage such interactions, a comment by Springfield school district's Director of Human Resources Roger Jordan was perceived to be culturally insensitive.

This young lady needs to decide whether she wants to remain in the ghetto culture or escape.

Simple as that.

5 posted on 06/08/2004 9:00:44 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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"Help, help! I'm being oppressed!"

I imagine the "offended" student wanders through life looking for offense wherever she thinks she can find it. I actually feel pity for her, more than anything else. Her whole life revolves around her status as a member of a victim group. She will never be truly happy in life because she will always be bothered by how big bad racist American society is oppressing her.

6 posted on 06/08/2004 9:02:41 AM PDT by Modernman (It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance? -Ronald Reagan)
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This young lady needs to decide whether she wants to remain in the ghetto culture or escape.

Yup. Whatever your "culture" encourages, there are certain things you have to do in a job interview, like it or not. If that's too onerous for you, well, don't expect to get a job.

7 posted on 06/08/2004 9:04:27 AM PDT by Modernman (It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance? -Ronald Reagan)
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In some cultures it's not GOOD to look the interviewer in the eye and give a firm handshake?

IF you want to get a job in THIS culture, learn it. (Some us have learned it OUTSIDE of school!)

IF you DON'T want a job in THIS culture, ARGUE about it.

It is what it is, you fools. Just be thankful that this school will take the time to bring you up to speed with those who have already learned it.

GEEZE! If the school left out this tidbit, the jerks would bitch about not knowing "the secret handshake"!


8 posted on 06/08/2004 9:04:56 AM PDT by bannie (Liberal Media: The Most Dangerous Enemies to America and Freedom)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

exactly!!!!!

In some small towns, there are still "ism's" that are particular to the community. A good teacher lets the students know that they may sound like outsiders if they use these ism's in college or business settings in more mainstream communities. It's not that the language is bad--it's just a red flag that the student is not as "educated" in the larger community.


9 posted on 06/08/2004 9:09:10 AM PDT by bannie (Liberal Media: The Most Dangerous Enemies to America and Freedom)
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"At the conference, students in the college learned the importance of firm handshakes and direct eye contact when meeting with potential employers..."

Yup. So..do you want the job or not?


10 posted on 06/08/2004 9:09:31 AM PDT by OpusatFR (Vote Kerry if you want to commit national suicide)
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Well I can claim that in my culture there is a tradiiton to show up at job interviews naked and drunk and further the process by farting each time the interviewer asks a question. I guess that means I'm qualified to be a diversity officer.


11 posted on 06/08/2004 9:12:41 AM PDT by marlon
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Why is it that "it's my culture" only slices one way?

If she wants a job in "this culture," she can bloody well learn her manners. Otherwise, she's free to find a job in "some other culture" she finds more conducive.

12 posted on 06/08/2004 9:14:49 AM PDT by valkyrieanne
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Well I can claim that in my culture there is a tradiiton to show up at job interviews naked and drunk

I don't do that on job interviews. I only do that on the job, then claim protection under the ADA.

13 posted on 06/08/2004 9:16:46 AM PDT by Modernman (It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance? -Ronald Reagan)
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Well, you damned sure should get the job! It's your RIGHT as a person-of-diversity!!!!

:) good one!


14 posted on 06/08/2004 9:16:49 AM PDT by bannie (Liberal Media: The Most Dangerous Enemies to America and Freedom)
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Why is it that "it's my culture" only slices one way?

When she gets out into the real world, she'll find that "it's my culture" will keep her from getting a job. Good thing, too. Who really wants this multiculti dingbat teaching their kids?

15 posted on 06/08/2004 9:18:59 AM PDT by Modernman (It's true hard work never killed anybody, but I figure, why take the chance? -Ronald Reagan)
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No, no. You're looking at this all wrong. Ya see, this cultural victim of racism shouldn't have to leave her culture. We should embrace her culture, even though they don't like embraces. Ya see, it's not quite that simple, because all of us are wrong, and only she is right.
16 posted on 06/08/2004 9:21:41 AM PDT by zahal724
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"That's kind of what we term a crisis," Lyda said.

Kind of? Well, is it a crisis or not? Yes, let's focus on sensitivity training, don't bother learning the meanings of words and how to express yourself.

Disregarding the PC nonsense, I feel a huge contributing factor in this tidal wave of people being "offended", is their general ignorance of the English language. They do not understand what is being said, and compound the problem by not being able to properly express themselves. The dumbing down and growing ignorance of the populace is a serious problem. Especially when you factor in those people who are making a concerted effort to alter the meanings of words for their own purposes.
17 posted on 06/08/2004 9:24:15 AM PDT by visualops (Let's win another one for the Gipper.)
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To: Modernman; Born Conservative

A Washington Post article today is titled, "A Blending Of Patriotism, Native Pride - In Diverse Fairfax School, Civics Starts in 1st Grade"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A23432-2004Jun7.html

A couple excerpts:

... Education and political analysts say such teachings have become more common nationwide, although they are divided on how -- and whether -- anyone should be taught to be patriotic. ... Schools have historically played a role in assimilating immigrants and fostering civic pride, but some observers contend that the intensity of the renewed effort is jingoistic. "Loving your country is not something you indoctrinate," said Jane Junn, a Rutgers University political scientist who has done research on civic education and immigrants. "It's something a person has to come to themselves."

... Some schools, including Anthony Hyde Elementary School in Georgetown, say they have tried to steer clear of injecting patriotism into civics lessons. "At Hyde, civics instruction is more about personal responsibility," Principal Anne Jenkins said. "Informed, thoughtful choices are the essence of democracy." ...


18 posted on 06/08/2004 9:25:04 AM PDT by StayAt HomeMother
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A good response:

"Excellent point! If your culture discourages eye contact or firm handshakes, by all means avoid them. You must respect your own culture and avoid all things that make you uncomfortable. I am quite sure that all Interviewers will respect your culture on this matter.

Of course, we must be sensitive to all culture. We must keep in mind that the Interviewer also has their own culture. They may feel uncomfortable hiring someone who won't make eye contact or provide a firm handshake. And that's OK. It's part of their culture.

Above all, make the choice that's best for you."

19 posted on 06/08/2004 9:35:41 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (You can see it coming like a train on a track.)
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GEEZE! If the school left out this tidbit, the jerks would bitch about not knowing "the secret handshake"!

Absolutely - there just HAS to be something, anything, that's keeping those that doesn't know how to function in society "oppressed".

BTW, consider the source - OREGON. I sincerely hope my son decides to go to college out of state, he'll be miserable in the liberal cesspools here.

20 posted on 06/08/2004 9:39:31 AM PDT by momfirst (My two-cents)
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