[qam1]

Then again, Some of the founding fathers (i.e. Ben Franklin Born 1706) were of the Awakening Generation, So if you count back to them we are the 13th generation if not we are the 10th.

[Betis70]

I think they include Ben Franklin's generation. I actually have the book at home (both "Fourth Turning" and "13th Generation"), but forgot to look at them last night.