Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Police seize legal gunowner
WorldNetDaily ^ | 6/5/04 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 06/05/2004 8:48:52 PM PDT by natewill

A gunowners group is protesting the seizure of a legally armed citizen in a bookstore by two police officers who responded to an anonymous caller alarmed by the weapon.

Michael Pelletier was browsing a Manchester, N.H., Barnes & Noble with his wife March 27 when a police officer, assisted by a colleague, suddenly grabbed him by the right shoulder and his holster and pushed him toward the corner of a bookcase, says Gunowners of America.

The Manchester Police Department officers, Chris Byron and David DuPont, ordered Pelletier to place his hands on his head, which he did at once, the group said.

Pelletier was carrying a pistol openly at the small of his back, which became apparent after he took off his jacket.

The officers then disarmed Pelletier and escorted him out of the store. Background checks revealed no record, but officers and detectives issued a barrage of questions about why he carries a gun and what kind of training he had, the gun group said.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunowner; policeseize
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140 ... 221-238 next last
To: Amelia; mvpel
First of all, what I said was "After reading the original story, what struck me was that if the person grabbing him had been a "bad guy" instead of a policeman, Mr. Pellitier could well have had his own weapon used against him."

I have to admit, Amelia does bring up a very valid point here.

101 posted on 06/06/2004 6:17:31 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 99 | View Replies]

To: LFOD
Private citizens need to be discreet. Okay?

Why? Open carry is legal in New Hampshire.

102 posted on 06/06/2004 6:46:21 AM PDT by Mulder (Those who would give up liberty for temporary security, deserve neither -- Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: BOOTSTICK
Police are not morons

Even when the commit crimes, including federal felonies like the jackboots mentioned in this article likley did?

but you, and this idiot who got hassled by the police are indeed morons.

For believing that this is a Free country, and that people have a Right to be left alone unless they are breaking the law?

without the good sense to keep his weapon concealed, as to not alarm the general population deserves to get arrested

According to what law in New Hampshire? Or is it now "okay" to arrest people just because some sheep gets 'alarmed'?

Some states do allow for open display, only as far as removing the gun and putting it in a fanny pack for instance, but discretion must be observed

And many states "allow" for open carry virtually everywhere. In New Hampshire, open carry is legal in most public places.

Sadly morons like this joker who think walking about in public with a gun in the small of his back, are hurting responsible gun owners like myself nationwide.

I disagree. The more folks that carry guns openly, the more it becomes "acceptable" to the sheeple.

103 posted on 06/06/2004 6:52:40 AM PDT by Mulder (Those who would give up liberty for temporary security, deserve neither -- Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: lainie
Here, Michael posts about the situation on Free Republic.
104 posted on 06/06/2004 6:52:51 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: agitator
In Wyoming open carry is legal and doesn't get a second look

And likewise Wyoming has much better gun laws than states where you have to cover it up and hide it like it's some sort of disease.

105 posted on 06/06/2004 6:53:46 AM PDT by Mulder (Those who would give up liberty for temporary security, deserve neither -- Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 60 | View Replies]

To: Squantos
a rule most states impose on our RKBA rental agreement called a CHL includes blandishment which results in scaring silly assed sheeple. If Mike was in a Barnes and Noble he was in liberal enemy territory and made a silly error while working within "their" (socialists) rules of the game

I checked on packing.org last night and apparently open carry in public is perfectly legal in New Hampshire.

I understand the tactical and the "don't want to be harassed" arguments for going concealed 100% of the time, but that results in a culture of sheep that don't see armed citizens in public, making them more likely to vote for gun control.

106 posted on 06/06/2004 6:57:15 AM PDT by Mulder (Those who would give up liberty for temporary security, deserve neither -- Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: Blue Collar Christian
He admits he was asleep at the wheel on gun retention

In a way, that was probably a blessing for him. If he had fought these thugs, it's likely he'd be either dead or in jail facing felony charges.

107 posted on 06/06/2004 6:58:29 AM PDT by Mulder (Those who would give up liberty for temporary security, deserve neither -- Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 74 | View Replies]

To: pepperhead
More and more states are going to concealed carry only and doing away with open carry. It won't be long before there will be no second amendment at all. Hope all the concealed carry sellouts feel ok when this happens.

Now that most states have shall-issue CCW, the next step should be to go to Vermont-style CCW, where you can carry either openly or concealed without a "permit".

Alaska adopted a law to do so last year.

Colorado and New Hampshire tried to do so earlier this year but failed (it actually passed the NH House).

There is currently a bill in Utah to do so.

108 posted on 06/06/2004 7:01:53 AM PDT by Mulder (Those who would give up liberty for temporary security, deserve neither -- Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]

To: BOOTSTICK
If I am the owner of a retail establishment, and my store policy, is no firearms

And here in Florida, your silly sign would have absolutely zero legal standing.

109 posted on 06/06/2004 7:02:58 AM PDT by Mulder (Those who would give up liberty for temporary security, deserve neither -- Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]

To: TheLurkerX
Turned out they attached the warrant to the wrong record, and he didn't even get an apology.

He should see a lawyer. Sounds like he has grounds for a lawsuit.

110 posted on 06/06/2004 7:03:58 AM PDT by Mulder (Those who would give up liberty for temporary security, deserve neither -- Ben Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 83 | View Replies]

To: Bogey78O
Hey, are those pearl handles? ;)
"No they're ivory,only a New Orleans pimp would carry a pistol with pearl handles"
111 posted on 06/06/2004 7:14:11 AM PDT by ChibisHologram
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: ChibisHologram

Damn straight. Said as only a man who pray's every god damn day could say.


112 posted on 06/06/2004 7:26:24 AM PDT by Bogey78O (McDonalds rejected slogan "Billions served....millions if not counting Michael Moore")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 111 | View Replies]

To: Politicalmom
He has asked us NOT to do anything, as he has retained legal counsel.

The two month anniversary of this incident has passed, so that request no longer applies. Time to turn up the heat. They've been doing their "internal investation" long enough.

I spoke with Governor Benson on Thursday May 27, and his response was "they're still doing that??" and having his aide jot down a note for the Attorney General. Judging by his reaction, there will be a memo going out to the police chiefs and sheriffs on this subject. Gov. Benson also carries concealed.

This WND article was probably spurred by Larry Pratt's publication of a GOA Action Alert that was drafted last week, vetted by my attorney, Penny Dean of Concord, who's also on the board of Gun Owners of New Hampshire.

113 posted on 06/06/2004 7:28:57 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: mvpel

Sorry if I passed innacurate information. I just read the original thread yesterday, and I didn't want anyone to harm your case. So an all out FReeping is acceptable now?? : )


114 posted on 06/06/2004 7:36:47 AM PDT by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 113 | View Replies]

To: Politicalmom

INACCURATE.


115 posted on 06/06/2004 8:06:32 AM PDT by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 114 | View Replies]

To: bad company; TheCrusader; cruiserman; Mulder; Politicalmom
In Idaho it's called a concealed weapon license, and I will point you to a website (pdf file) where you can read about it.

http://www.adasheriff.org/Forms/cwp.pdf

Refer to page two, second paragraph... It specficicly instructs you to keep your weapon concealed, and suggests that you may be contacted by the police if you inadvertantly display it.
116 posted on 06/06/2004 9:07:37 AM PDT by babygene (Viable after 87 trimesters)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 94 | View Replies]

To: babygene

He wasn't IN Idaho, for heaven's sake.


117 posted on 06/06/2004 9:25:29 AM PDT by Politicalmom ( Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but they're not entitled to their own facts -D. Rumsfeld)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 116 | View Replies]

To: Vigilantcitizen
Thank you-I PhotoShop a bit to relax my eyes, as I do very small scale work at my job. Here is a smaller greyscale gif version:

The most powerful "handgun" I ever fired was a Thompson Center Contender with a 45-70 barrel and 375 grain loads. It made quite a mess of some bowling pins. The recoil was odd, but tolerable.
118 posted on 06/06/2004 9:29:34 AM PDT by happydogdesign
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 100 | View Replies]

To: Amelia

Let me ask you, if a person is going to carry a gun so that it's readily available if needed for self-defense, but difficult for someone else to use offensively, do you think carrying it behind you at the small of your back is optimal, or are there other types of holster both easier for you to reach and harder for someone else to access?


Well for one thing i wouldnt carry it in the small of my back i would carry it as a sidearm in a holster and gunbelt just as i have for some 30 years now

My freinds and i for years have carried it that way into every establishment that allowed it before intrusive gun laws took effect in Ohio it was nothing to walk into a sporting goods store and buy ammo with my gun strapped to my side or a restaraunt to have a meal and when the police talked to you it was in front of you to your face not in a paniced manner as if you were a criminal but a citizen !

So to answer your question NO i dont think it was wise to carry it in the small of his back but the police should have approached him much more differently because most criminals are not going to brandish a weapon holstered or not untill they are ready to break the law !


119 posted on 06/06/2004 9:59:37 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (‘All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.’ TJefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 99 | View Replies]

To: babygene

I've got an ID CCW permit. ID is still an open carry state, and I've never been hassled for carrying openly, even in Boise.


120 posted on 06/06/2004 11:09:25 AM PDT by cruiserman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 116 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140 ... 221-238 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson