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1 posted on 06/05/2004 6:11:36 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: JohnHuang2

mega ping please


2 posted on 06/05/2004 6:12:15 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: Jim Robinson

ping


3 posted on 06/05/2004 6:16:55 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii

What is or are your sources? Lack of funding does not explain human abuse and torture and dishonorable conduct.


7 posted on 06/05/2004 6:40:04 PM PDT by curious311 (It doesn't take a hero to order men into battle. It takes a hero to be one of those men in battle.)
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To: maui_hawaii

"Was it a set up? No one knows."

Sure, evildoers made the "trailer trash" trailer trash.


8 posted on 06/05/2004 6:45:57 PM PDT by cavan
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To: maui_hawaii
The Administration should have told the ACLU to pi$$ off right FRom the get-go.

American Civil Liberties Union in Iraq?

Would somebody please tell me just whatinHell the ACLU has to do with Iraqi POWs or enemy combatants?

9 posted on 06/05/2004 6:46:52 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: maui_hawaii
"The military began transferring people from the tent cities into Abu Griab. That was the plan. Fast forward a few more months…some entirely stupid military personnel were caught on film (imagine that) doing what they were doing. Wrong? Yes. No excuses. Was it a set up? No one knows. Was there a long anticipated hunt to find something wrong with the facility and to embarrass President Bush? Yes."

Wrong? Hell, it was right.

When you have an opponent who is willing to strap bombs to his body to kill you then pain and fear will not produce accurate information.

Given the muslim culture, humiliation is the only way to secure "cooperation".

The idiocy--the utter, complete, stupid, moronic aspect--was taking photographs of the proceedings.

--Boris

10 posted on 06/05/2004 7:11:31 PM PDT by boris (The deadliest weapon of mass destruction in history is a Leftist with a word processor)
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To: maui_hawaii

Only Cheesy Chuck has such a fascination with grabasticism.


17 posted on 06/05/2004 9:09:11 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: maui_hawaii

"to find something wrong with the facility and to embarrass President Bush? Yes"

I tend to believe this was intentionally used that way .. but it hasn't worked out; the public got fed up with the 24/7 pictures.

Remember several months ago when Hillary was bragging about an "October surprise". I keep wondering if this was the surprise but it just got out of the bag early.

This activity was first exposed in January. A memo went to the senate intel and armed services committees. Since Hillary is on the armed services committee, her office would have gotten the memo .. and who's to say Hillary didn't call General Karpinski and .......?? I would love to know when Hillary made that statement about the "October surprise".

I know it demands tinfoil .. but I just have this weird feeling about the general .. something is not right there.


18 posted on 06/05/2004 10:38:07 PM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: maui_hawaii

Wow.

A must-read.


41 posted on 06/06/2004 6:17:08 PM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: Mich0127; RightRules; MeekOneGOP; Peach; onyx; backhoe; Mia T; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; ...

Abu Ghraib was a SET-UP ping!

I will do some fact-checking, but this makes a lot of sense.


47 posted on 06/06/2004 6:21:48 PM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: maui_hawaii

Freakin' ACLU. It figures.


71 posted on 06/06/2004 6:53:56 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: maui_hawaii
No cells, no walls, just groups of criminals in tents

Sounds like a meeting of democrat senators and congresscritters.

118 posted on 06/07/2004 5:52:11 AM PDT by b4its2late (Hillary's got more wrinkles than an Elephants scrotum.)
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To: maui_hawaii
Great post.


We have a two front war, over there and right here at home. No wonder they scream and holler about the Patriot Act, might just lead some to the ACLU's back door.
119 posted on 06/07/2004 5:58:36 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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