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To: CasearianDaoist; JOE6PAK

Is the Pope that dense or is he totally out of the loop and brainwashed by liberal media (CNN or the Italian equivalent) being fed into the Vatican? President Bush and the U.S. (and Italy) have freed millions of people in darkness and brutality and not killed hardly any innocents. This Pope is Polish for Peter's sake and he knows of Nazis and W.W.II and Saddam being the exact same thing... I'm talking mass graves, shredded people, WMD (that are now proven to exist), terrorism that we are fighting against (not conquering Iraq for permanent occupation like Soviets or something). Does the Pope not know that Afghanistan now has a hope and future that we are fighting and dying to bring the same also to Iraq? President Bush ought to show him the video of Saddam's torturing shown on only CBN. That video should be shown in public on big screens in every protest so that there is nowhere to look that you don't see the arms, legs and heads chopped off. That should shut the Pope up. I'm thinking the Pope is not the man of God so much anymore as he is the man of sin...


13 posted on 06/04/2004 4:57:19 PM PDT by KriegerGeist ("In the war on terror there is no substitute for victory" General Douglas MacArthur (and GK))
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To: Geist Krieger
Is the Pope that dense or is he totally out of the loop and brainwashed by liberal media (CNN or the Italian equivalent) being fed into the Vatican?

Damn good question!

18 posted on 06/04/2004 5:01:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Geist Krieger
As I said, a left of center clique of prelates inside the Vatican have obviously hijacked the Pope. I am an RC but I will say that the Pope has been an anomaly inside the Vatican where the inner circles are rife with the same sort of intellectual and spiritual corruption that afflicts all the European liberal elites. This vileness in not new and predates the Pope's reign.

It will get worse after he goes IMHO. He managed to stem the tide for a time but from what I can see there will be a sharp movement away from his positions once he has gone. The RC hierarchy is in a deep moral morass, there will be deeper failures and tragedies _ and even greater farces - before they come face to face with their immorality, and this will be true as well of most of the leadership in the Liberal West.

It may well be that the Pope is ill-informed of events and one really has to question the clarity of his intellect at this point. It is hard to believe that the Lion of Poland who stood up to the Soviets would have in his prime countenanced this sort of nonsense.

25 posted on 06/04/2004 5:15:31 PM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: Geist Krieger

I truly don't think the pope is aware anymore. The anti-Parkinsons drugs are making his head fuzzy. Also the colon cancer may have metastasized and he may be on heavy duty pain meds. I think his lefty prelates (who tolerated and covered up the pedophelia) just feed him propaganda. Why else would he have kissed the bloody Koran?! Catholics just don't do things like that. I remember being in Catholic grade school and we were told not to kiss statues...They were just "representative" objects to remind us of the dead saints. I'm sure he was confused. That's the only way I can tolerate all this.


111 posted on 06/04/2004 8:14:03 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades...And panties!)
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To: Geist Krieger

My thoughts exactly though you expressed them far better.


122 posted on 06/04/2004 10:50:05 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH ( A vote for George Bush is a principled vote!)
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