[Jorge]

"Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Pope also denounce the war in Iraq?"

Jorge;"Yes. He condemned the war in Iraq. Guess he preferred Saddam continue gassing, torturing and filling his mass graves. Incredible."

BlackElk; Go to your room and leave the discussion to grownups.

Why should I? So I won't embarrass posters like you who are clearly unable to post a coherant response to my challenges?

If I am wrong show me where. The truth is you can't.
That explains why you resort to the sort of juvenile responses we see above.

[BlackElk]

Because you are apparently either homosexual or a militant supporter of the despicable practice of homosexuality, Jorge, (I usually give you the benefit of the do8bt and call you libertarian but why not call a spade a spade?) you understandably despise the Roman Catholic Church to which I belong. This is America. You are free to despise the RCC and I am free to despise you and the practices you indulge or support, as the case may be.

You are not particularly feree to lie about the pope and to expect not to be verbally whacked for it.

Please prove your specific charge that JP II "condemned the war in Iraq by providing a specific quote from the pope himself and the source where you found it. The Associated Press summaries will not do. As recently as this week, AP would have had us believe that the essence of Dubya's meeting with JP II was a scolding of Bush by JP II and the transcript does NOT bear out any such thing. The quote you provide must also be from JP II and not from some underling like Renato Cardinal Martino. You did not accuse Martino. You accused JP II.

Despising the practice and advocacy of homosexuality is quite tradional in virtually all cultures and always will be, Jorge, and is hardly juvenile. Take a Socrates cocktail.