Posted on 06/04/2004 2:21:55 AM PDT by neverdem
www.gunowners.org
Jun 2004
Wednesday, June 2, 2004
Well, we knew this day would eventually come.
GOA has been warning gun owners that Democrat Senator Dianne Feinstein of California would be looking for an avenue to attach her gun ban to unrelated legislation sometime this year.
According to Senate sources, Feinstein will be making her move quite soon.
While she reportedly has her eyes on a number of different bills as possible vehicles for her amendment, it seems certain that she will try to piggy-back her anti-gun language onto a legal reform bill (such as S. 2062) within the next few weeks.
You will remember that when Feinstein offered her gun ban amendment in March, it passed 52-47.
While a switch of only three Senators would be enough to kill the amendment, it seems that the easiest way to defeat Feinstein will be through a filibuster. Our side only needs 41 Senators to kill her amendment through the art of filibuster, and it would appear that we definitely have that many votes... BUT ONLY IF THE 47 SENATORS WHO VOTED RIGHT LAST TIME CONTINUE TO HOLD THE LINE!
That’s why we need another barrage of phone calls and e-mails going into Senate offices.
ACTION: Please contact your Senators and urge them to oppose any Feinstein amendment to reinstate the semi-auto ban. Tell them to also support any effort to filibuster this unconstitutional legislation.
You can send the letter as an e-mail by visiting the GOA Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm (where phone and fax numbers are also available).
Dear Senator:
I have been alerted to the fact that Sen. Dianne Feinstein is planning to offer the renewal of Clinton’s semi-auto ban as an amendment to legislation in upcoming weeks.
I would join the voices of many other Americans who would urge you to support our call for a filibuster against the reauthorization.
Please know that the Clinton semi-auto ban is one of the most hated pieces of legislation ever enacted, and those who support its reauthorization will find no friends or votes within the pro-gun community.
Sincerely,
Pratt To Speak
Larry Pratt, Gun Owners of America’s Executive Director, will be speaking at the Freedom Roast in Sioux Falls, SD on Saturday, June 12.
This is a family event with attractions for the kids while the parents are taking in the speeches or filling up on the free eats at this gala hog roast.
Pratt will be available at the GOA tent when he is not at the podium. His book and GOA membership applications will be available.
See http://www.freedomroast.us for more information.
Rep. DeLay: I am and have been against the gun ban, because I believe it violates the Second Amendment, and nothing in the last 10 years has changed that. The Second Amendment states that "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed," and I don`t see enough support in the House to ensure passage of something that would so blatantly infringe on this individual right.
I believe the matter will be resolved with Rep. DeLay.
Congress won't be in session much longer (they still need to campaign, as we're not yet to the point of giving them lifetime appointments for the sake of "national security"), so I think the ban will sunset in Sept.
If the Kerry wins and the rats win Congress, there will likely be an outright ban on all semiauto rifles. They may or may not 'grandfather' existing ones, but the end result will be the same, if patriots sit on their hands.
If Bush wins, and the rats win Congress, the same will happen. Bush will sign any gun-control bill they pass.
I think if the Republicans can continue to hold the House, then a new bill will not pass, barring some 'super Columbine' event, like the one in your book.
You ever notice that the politicians who are the most upstanding and honorable, thereby having the least to fear from uppity peasants, are the ones who don't mind us peons having guns? And how the polticos with the totalitarian/Marxist leanings are the ones who want us stripped of our ability to defend ourselves and our families?
No coincidence there.
I think it's going to be strengthened. Do you have Feinswine's proposed additions that she wants to add to the existing gun ban? IF she gets those added, it's going to be very bad.
Here's a list of the usual RINOs, IIRC.
I believe you can assume all the rats voted for the AWB. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. Fitzgerald declined to run for re-election this year, and all the others either have safe seats or are not up for re-election this year.
Pretty likely scenario I think.
It's good to know you can see into the future. /sarcasm
Dems voting against Gun show ban in 2004
Baucus, Miller, BEN Nelson,
Dem's voting against Ted Kennedy's ban on all center fire ammunition(30-30ban)
Lincoln, Pryor, Zell Miller, Dorgan, Baucus, BEN Nelson, Bingaman, Breaux, Reid, Jeffords(He's a dem), Conrad, Landrieu, Leahy, Dasshole
GOP voting FOR AW ban in 04
Chafee, Collins, Snowe, Voinovich, Warner, Smith, Lugar, Fitzgerald, Gregg, DeWine
GOP voting FOR gun show ban in 04
Lugar, McStain, Chafee, DeWine, Hagel, Fitzgerald, WArner, Voinovich.
GOP voting for Kennedy ban
Lincoln Chafee
Missed votes
AWB - Johnson
Gun Show - Johnson
.30-30 ban - Domenici, Edwards, Johnson
Nope. President Bush has already said that while he would reauthorize existing gun control, that he wouldn't sign additional constraints into law.
The AWB renewal is up 3 votes in the Senate. If Johnson continues to refuse to vote on it, then it is up by 2. If any of Snowe, Smith, or Gregg can be switched, then it is dead (VP Cheney breaks ties in the Senate).Also, Senator Kerry would have to show up again for it to pass...and that could be swatted down with a single filibuster. Senator Daschle is also on the spot over this vote.
So even passage in the Senate isn't assured...much less getting by the House...and if the "renewal" contains any new gun control, then President Bush will veto it.
Ergo, I don't see it being renewed.
Note above, apparently Specter voted properly.
I think you're being much too pessimistic if Bush win's re-election IMHO. If he does win, he'll probably improve pubbie margins in Congress, and he can then say he has grown in office.
Thank you for the correction. I looked at Thomas.gov, but I couldn't find the amendment's to S. 1806. Do you have any links? I should have bookmarked that thread.
Specter's magic bullet is still working. The NRA gave him an A, IIRC.
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=2&vote=00025
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=2&vote=00028
Thanks for the URLs. They worked like a charm. I sent emails to the NY State GOP and the NY Conservative Party about Schumer and Clinton voting to ban virtually all, if not all centerfire rifle ammo. I intend to send regular mail as well.
Any and all 'infringements' on gun ownership at the federal level are clear violations of the 2nd Ammendment.
"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
The original colonies would not have signed onto a general (central) government compact without this protection/guarantee in place.
Each and every federal employee that promotes, proscribes, or enforces limits on any ownership of arms by 'the people' is guilty of treason at the very least, and a cheerleader at worst, for the tyranny that will undoubtably arise in the vaccum of power created as a result. Their utopian version of a 'gunless' society is without clothes.
Oak trees, lamposts, and rope are the necessary ingredients to insure that the American ideal of self-government is not hijacked by those who ignore the original intent, while mistakenly elevating themselves to the height of those who fought tyranny firsthand and, as a result, designed remedies-- before unknown, to ensure it's ugly head would not rise again on our soil.
At quick glance, our American garden is rife with weeds. Their seeds were not deliberatly planted, yet they've sprung up as one might expect when their dormancy was disturbed by a 'stirring', such as we've experienced recently in Iraq. The Victory Garden during WWII is no different from today's. What is different are the amount of weeds being tolerated.
Really? I'm rather fond of the federal law that bans incarcerated felons from possessing firearms.
You'd arm them?
Thing is, you better get your state on board, 'cause it seems the BOR doesn't apply.
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