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Liberal Democrats, not "neo-cons" trying to bring back "draft"
Congress.org ^ | 6-03-04

Posted on 06/03/2004 11:32:35 AM PDT by jmstein7

Republicans introduce bill to repeal Selective Service System, permanently end draft.

Many of the action items [on Congress.Org's SoapBox] seem to revolve around the rumored return of "the draft", apparently at the behest of a secret Bush administration effort, or the "warhawks", as another soapbox poster put it.

In truth, the pair of Universal National Service Act bills, S.89 and H.R.163, have been introduced and sponsored by liberal Democrats. S.89 is sponsored by Sen. Fritz Hollings (D-SC), while the companion H.R.163 was introduced by Congressional Black Caucus cofounder and Harlem representative Charlie Rangel (D-NY), along with 14 other Democrats that read like a Who's Who of the Left in Congress:

D Rep Abercrombie, Neil - 1/7/2003 [HI-1] D Rep Brown, Corrine - 1/28/2003 [FL-3] D Rep Christensen, Donna M. - 5/19/2004 [VI] D Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy - 1/28/2003 [MO-1] D Rep Conyers, John, Jr. - 1/7/2003 [MI-14] D Rep Cummings, Elijah E. - 1/28/2003 [MD-7] D Rep Hastings, Alcee L. - 1/28/2003 [FL-23] D Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila - 1/28/2003 [TX-18] D Rep Lewis, John - 1/7/2003 [GA-5] D Rep McDermott, Jim - 1/7/2003 [WA-7] D Rep Moran, James P. - 1/28/2003 [VA-8] D Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes - 1/28/2003 [DC] D Rep Stark, Fortney Pete - 1/7/2003 [CA-13] D Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. - 1/28/2003 [NY-12]

The details of these bills are here:

H.R.163 | Text | Cosponsors

S.89 | Text

By contrast, Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) has introduced a bill, H.R.487, to repeal the Military Selective Service Act, permanently ending the draft. Cosponsors include two other Republicans and five Democrats.

Details:

H.R.487 | Text | Cosponsors

D Rep Boucher, Rick - 2/12/2003 [VA-9] D Rep DeFazio, Peter A. - 1/29/2003 [OR-4] R Rep Foley, Mark - 3/6/2003 [FL-16] D Rep Frank, Barney - 1/29/2003 [MA-4] D Rep Nadler, Jerrold - 2/7/2003 [NY-8] D Rep Owens, Major R. - 2/11/2003 [NY-11] R Rep Rohrabacher, Dana - 6/23/2003 [CA-46]

I'm really surprised reading through all of the other soapbox posts and letters that, from the tone of the messages, everyone seems to assume it's Bush or the "neo-cons" behind some kind of effort to reinstate "the draft", when in reality it's all liberal Democrats that have introduced and sponsored the bills, while almost all Republicans OPPOSE forced service, whether it be civil or military.

This is indeed an important issue, but when writing your representatives in Congress and/or the President, keep in mind who is actually supporting these bills. Hint: it's not Bush and the "warhawks"...

I hope this information is found useful.

Contact: das@doit.wisc.edu


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To: Dems_R_Losers
You got it right....

I work at a public school and there are two young men who go to CSUN (Cal State Northrige). One of them (19) wears a shirt that says "It Effects Me" (that was given to him), so when you ask "What effects you" he says "Haven't you heard of the program Bush is putting into action?".... "You haven't?"... "Well, his administration is trying to sneak in the draft without anyone knowing"...

Blah, blah, blah.... I have emailed them tons of info regarding the bills and info on the cosponsors...and article's on the quotas being filled and how reenlistment is UP...

But, they believe their professors... and don't want to hear the truth... I even bought the book by Ben Shapiro "Brainwashed" for one of them.

In one conversation earlier in the year, one of them couldn't tell me what party the President belonged to or Kerry even...

The professors are not teaching these kids how to be informed or research just open thier mind and soak it all in..
21 posted on 06/03/2004 7:18:50 PM PDT by bellas_sister (" Senator, do you know there's a girl found dead in your car?")
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To: GATOR NAVY

Yes, but they want the protests to come from within also.


22 posted on 06/04/2004 5:41:22 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: jmstein7
Liberals figure if they can reinstall the draft they blame it on Bush, reignite the college campuses and deju vu their favorite part of history all over again by turning Iraq and the WOT into another "Vietnam".

They are the Fifth Column of the Islamics.

23 posted on 06/04/2004 6:19:58 AM PDT by Gritty ("Kill off the Goddamned cowards and we will have a nation of brave men"-Gen George Patton)
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To: A. Pole

My point was that the Democrats are the ones submitting the bills but the media is pointing the finger at Bush, saying he wants to reinstate the draft, when it is clearly not true.


24 posted on 06/04/2004 7:07:34 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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