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Another Victory for the ACLU in its War on Christianity
O'reilly Factor ^ | 6/3/04 | Bill O'Reilly

Posted on 06/03/2004 9:37:48 AM PDT by cwb

Hi.  I'm Bill O'Reilly.  Thanks for watching us tonight. Another victory for the ACLU (search) in its war on Christianity.  That is the subject of this evening's "Talking Points Memo." Take a look at the county seal in Los Angeles because it's about to change.

[The County] Supervisors voted 3 to 2 to cave in to the ACLU's demands that the small cross on the right be removed, and it soon will be, even though it's been there for 47 years.  The ACLU's Los Angeles director, Ramona Ripskin (ph), says the cross makes some Angelenos feel, quote, "unwelcome," unquote.  Sane people point out that the cross signifies the historical founding of Los Angeles by Catholic missionaries.

That historical argument seems to have some merit because a few hundred miles north of L.A., federal judge Phyllis Hamilton recently ruled that 7th-graders at a Contra Costa County school could be forced to say Muslim prayers in a history class for the sake of history.  By the way, just yesterday, Judge Hamilton declared the law banning partial-birth abortion unconstitutional, thereby wiping out the will of the president, Congress and the vast majority of Americans. 

Of course, Judge Hamilton knows far more about the Constitution than anyone.  And it would be interesting see how this woman would rule if a public school history teacher forced his or her students to say Christian prayers.  I'm sure the judge would support that, just as she supports Muslim prayers.

Judge Hamilton and the ACLU are part of the anti-Christian cabal in America that sees the Christian majority as oppressors.  These people know they can never impose their secular agenda on this country while Judeo-Christian philosophy (search) dominates the philosophical arena.  That's because Judeo-Christian philosophy requires judgments about right and wrong in personal behavior.  The secularists deplore that.  They want an open society where anything goes, including legalized drugs, any kind of abortion, euthanasia, gay marriage and explicit images and speech on the public airwaves.

Unless America's tradition of opposing these kinds of behaviors is changed, the secularist agenda will never become a reality.  So diminishing any Christian display in public is the goal and encouraging alternative thought, like Muslim prayers, helps that goal... 

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KEYWORDS: aclu; cross; losangeles; oreilly; oreillyfactor; purge
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And Michael Moore has the nerve to want to know where his country has gone? Dude...Where's "my" country gone? Next thing ya know, they'll want to change the name of the city, "Los Angeles," because it too, has its origins in Christianity's belief in Angels.

What is going on? As historical symbols of Christianity are being stricken from the pulbic domain, we have 7th Graders being forced to recite Muslim prayer...or even local governments practically endorsing the very public, Muslim call to prayer, as is being done in Hamtramack, Michigan.

1 posted on 06/03/2004 9:37:51 AM PDT by cwb
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To: cwb

but in Atlantic City they've announced two new Islamic holidays will close all government offices for two days...there's no connection between church and state there!


2 posted on 06/03/2004 9:43:06 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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Next thing ya know, they'll want to change the name of the city, "Los Angeles," because it too, has its origins in Christianity'

The city of Corpus Christi (Texas) really has to stick in their craw.

3 posted on 06/03/2004 9:45:33 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: cwb
I didn't used to like Bill O'Reilly but now I'm a big fan and supporter of his.

Bill O'Reilly BUMP - go get 'em Bill!

4 posted on 06/03/2004 9:46:43 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (U.S.A. - - United We Stand - - Divided We Fall - - Support Our Troops - - Vote BUSH)
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To: cwb
Dennis Prager is talking about this right now. He talked about it all day yesterday. He's asking that people especially in LA County contact these people.

Here's the information from Prager's website:

The Latest:

Don't Let Them Change the LA County Seal! Stop the ACLU! Call, fax, email or write to the Supervisors Molina, Burke and Yaroslavsky and tell them you want to keep the seal just as it is. Here's a list of numbers and addresses.

L A County Info

or

Board of Supervisors

Here's a picture of the Los Angeles County Seal that the ACLU wants to change. They want the county to remove the Cross because they think it makes people who are not Christian uncomfortable.


5 posted on 06/03/2004 9:46:57 AM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: beaversmom
Dennis Prager
6 posted on 06/03/2004 9:48:02 AM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: Happy2BMe

O'Reilly is more interesting to listen to than Rush these days. Rush is one giant commercial for Dubya. You listen to one minute and you know the talking point for the day. Yawn. At least O'Reilly will slam both sides, once in awhile.


7 posted on 06/03/2004 9:49:28 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: Republicus2001

What dates are those....? Ramadan? Would be interested in more specifics.


8 posted on 06/03/2004 9:49:31 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Countries around the world are ALIENATING ME...an American!)
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To: beaversmom

It's interesting that the ACLU is attacking the Cross in that Seal, yet has said nothing about the Pagan Godess...whatever the heck her name is. This isn't about the separation of church and state. It's all about attacking Christianity.


9 posted on 06/03/2004 9:52:27 AM PDT by cwb (If it weren't for Republicans, liberals would have no real enemies)
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To: Graybeard58

One caller to Prager's show mentioned his city of St. Paul. Won't be long before it's earmarked to go--could be offensive to people who don't believe in Saints.


10 posted on 06/03/2004 9:54:41 AM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: cwb

The cow needs to go--could be construed as having something to do with the Hindu religion.


11 posted on 06/03/2004 9:55:30 AM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: cwb
It's all about attacking Christianity.

Exactly. They know the goddess doesn't mean anything to anyone. The cross on the other hand needs to be destroyed no matter how small it is.

12 posted on 06/03/2004 9:57:04 AM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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There's just a lot of really bad things in that seal. A conquistadors' ship, a fish (covert Christian symbol), a cow (either Hindu, or offensive to Hindus depending what you do with it, oil wells (raping the Earth and polluting the Sky plus what the car has done to the freeway system.) Get rid of it all.

Mrs VS


13 posted on 06/03/2004 9:57:44 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: beaversmom

Now that I think about it, shouldn't we get rid of the large sailing vessel in that Seal...which I assume could be construed as a Spanish warship, filled with Spanish (and Christian) conquistadors. Isn't this something that would also offend liberals, since it was these evil Europeans who conquered America. Where does this PC crap end?


14 posted on 06/03/2004 10:01:47 AM PDT by cwb (If it weren't for Republicans, liberals would have no real enemies)
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To: VeritatisSplendor

You were just reading my mind:)


15 posted on 06/03/2004 10:02:22 AM PDT by cwb (If it weren't for Republicans, liberals would have no real enemies)
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To: cwb

Someone should remind the ACLU that all of the letters and legal documents that they generate also contain a Christian reference.......the date.


16 posted on 06/03/2004 10:26:51 AM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: TXBubba

Ping


17 posted on 06/03/2004 10:30:16 AM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: cwb

Geez, unless Los Angeles hires the dumbest lawyer in the world, how could they possibly lose a case like this? Oh, never mind - it has to go before a judge.

Wouldn't it cost more to replace all the symbols than to fight this out in court, anyway?


18 posted on 06/03/2004 10:32:10 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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Does anyone know how I can ping the list of CA FReepers about this? When I click on the CA flag all I get is the message board. Not sure how to get the list of CA designated FReepers.


19 posted on 06/03/2004 10:40:39 AM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: Ben Hecks

It's already the custom in academia to give dates as Common Era or Before the Common Era; e.g., 2004 CE or 586 BCE.


20 posted on 06/03/2004 10:40:54 AM PDT by megatherium
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