Posted on 06/03/2004 8:49:13 AM PDT by areafiftyone
That was Dugan.
Big Time was the guy who pulled the trigger on that one.
When Clinton appointed Shalikashvili to be Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, he effusively praised Shali's honesty (a subject about which Clinton knows little).
Shali, of course, is of Georgian (SSR) extraction and his father had been a general in the Georgia SS during the Second World War. Despite the fact that both father and son were general oficers, the younger Shali claims that he never discussed his father's military service with his old man.
Right then, we knew how honest Shalikashvili is.
How many of them serve on Soros foundations, like the International Crisis Group?
Admiral Crowe endorsed Clinton prior to the 1992 election.
I wonder if this list is anything like the "band of brothers" list, most of which were not consulted or asked if they wanted to be included, and have since come out publically saying that Kerry is not fit to be President and CIC. That would be a hoot if some of these retirees backfire on ol' Lurch.
You forgot Brigadier General Janis Karpinski. She has done more for Kerry's campaign than all of the others combined.
pesionice wrote: " ALL of these boys and girls...are on someone's payroll"
Good point! As far as McPeak goes, the Air Force has spent years steadily fixing and reversing everything he stood for. He wanted to treat the Air Force like a business, when any idiot knows the military doesn't fit the free market mold. A couple examples: an NCO cannot freely hire/fire his personnel--he must deal with what the recruiters supply him, and contracting agents can hardly reduce costs when they are buying one-of-a-kind parts for decades-old equipment. The military is most definitely NOT a business.
"I voted against modern equipment and technology for our troops before I speechified for them..."
where's zinni's name?
" Stansfield Turner is the one that has ME concenred "
Turner was on one of the cables this am absolutely apoplectic about Tenet's resignation. Said Tenet fell on his sword to cover for Bush,Bush is making Tenet the scapegoat for his failures, etc, etc.
It's pretty obvious that the Dems were planning on using Tenet as a cudgel to beat Bush over the head with in Nov and are angry that Tenet is gone.
Right. Then if all the neo-cons enlisted, Bush would not have to start the draft which like Vietnam would not go over too well on the college campus. The neo-cons could be called the Cheney Patriotic Brigades. Their enlisting should provide enough troops. Hopefully they do not have something better to do when their country needs them.
Well said and very true. My service experience exposed me to the phenomena that "peacetime" officers are, for the most part, political animals. Competent wartime officers, NCO's and soldiers appear from obscurity.
Since when is seconding our national security to the whims of France and the UN considered "leading" anything?
modernizing the military;
From the man who voted against virtually every moden weapons system
deploying all that is in America?s arsenal ? the power of our economy, our diplomacy, our intelligence capabilities and our values and ideas;
I.e., give them some money and maybe they'll go away
and freeing America from its dangerous dependence on Mideast oil.
ANWR? The President's energy plan? Any of this ring a bell?
This "neo-con" spent eight years in the USMC, helping end the Cold War, and was rejected TWICE to come back on active duty after 9/11.
I don't recall seeing your pathetic sniveling a$$ out there on the ramparts of freedom, sonny boy.
You are a good man. BTW I hold a combat infantryman badge from an earlier war.
I've been getting really, really confused over this "neo-con" term as of late. You are one of the very few FReepers to describe yourself as such. It seems as if most FReepers claim that there is no such thing as a neo-con.
How would you define the term, especially with regards to domestic policy? I read an article by (I believe) Irving Kristol last week which was a bit unsettling. He claimed that neo-cons accept the growth of government as inevitable.
Kudos for your service in the Corps.
I used to work for Lee Gunn. Sorry to hear he's now supporting a socialist.
elbucko wrote: "peacetime" officers are, for the most part, political animals"
True. Do you think the retired admirals and generals on Kerry's team were promoted for bucking the system? Ha! I do seem to recall an admirable Air Force Chief of Staff who resigned rather than go along with Clinton, but these guys, for the most part, sold their souls for their stars.
I don't recall, in reading my history books, that Wendell Wilkie did or said things like this when he ran against Roosevelt during WWII. I'm not suggesting Kerry not say anything about Iraq but he should be aware that there is a thin line between what he is saying and doing and giving comfort to the enemy.
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