Posted on 06/03/2004 8:31:40 AM PDT by SheLion
The tyranny of the majority. In California they're banning smoking on the beaches. The claim is to keep them cleaner, perhaps they should just ban people altogether, it would make the enviro-wackos very happy.
BWAAAAA HAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAa
Employees outside with their customers doesn't strike me as improving productivity.........
Ban people. Your right. Turn the beaches back over to the sand crabs............
Not for those who are now unemployed.
That's it, in a nutshell. Unless you can enshrine it in the Bill of Rights, or get more than half the population to take it up, smoking will continue to take a beating.
Ah common, I bet deep down you really want to quit.
As if the American Taliban care one hoot about the business effects.
BAN ALCOHOL SALES IN BARS. It's a health hazard!
You're arguing that since some laws are necessary, any given law (in this case, the smoking ban) is necessary. This seems unlikely.
Then we have one of three choices.
A) Outlaw tobacco. Not smoking bans, not confiscatory taxes, OUTLAW it, for the good of the smoker as well as the nonsmoker.
Do we, as a country, really want to go there? It was tried with alcohol with limited (read little) success.
B) PROVE that ETS, second hand smoke, is more than an irritant. Of the studies I have seen, approximately 80% say there is little, if any, epedemialogical evidence that ETS causes any permanent damage to anyone that doesn't have a preexisting medical condition.
IOW, it has nothing to do with the welfare of the community as a whole. Leave it up to the business owner to decide.
C) Continue to have the sheeple listen to the health nannies as they use junk science, cherry picked studies, and outright lies to advance their agenda of control.
Ever seen a DemoncRAT advance personal responsibility? Not very often, huh?
The antismoking campaigns are not about health they are about control of personal property rights, peoples lives, and the fact that some people think tobacco smoke smells bad.
Closed businesses, umemployed workers, lower tax revenue for the state and municipalities benefit the community as a whole in what way????
No one is advocating anarchy, but in some cases some laws are unneccessary, overburdensome, nothing short of social engineering.
Or like we did when I waited tables in NYC when they tried the first smoking ban, we would sneek a smoke in the bathroom. Sure did not make anyone more productive.
While I lived in California, I was amazed to see how many employees would slip off into the bathroom for a smoke no matter how "illegal" it was.
That's another point have made.
The non-smoker at the bar is not going to bet served promptly if the smoking bartender is outside with all the smokers.........You know the bartenders who's HEALTH the bans are designed to "protect."
Yea? Don't you think just a teensy bit that after 225 years of lawmakers doing their thing they have gone a little, shall we say OVERBOARD?
The same holds true for state capitals. How about a couple of sessions of lawrepealers to balance things out?
In looking at the stuff coming out of the California legislature perhaps a nice medium sized NUKE would help!LOL!
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Oh for heaven's sake,Joe. You are a crazed,maniacal ADDICT!!!! Who cares what you say!!!
(Sorry,I couldn't resist it---the smoking threads are really over the top today)
Mears
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