Posted on 06/03/2004 6:02:21 AM PDT by Pokey78
New Hampshire
Heres a headline from Tuesdays Glasgow Herald: Saudi Security Forces Allowed the Killers to Escape.
Hold that thought for a moment. For two-and-three-quarter years now, theres been a continuing debate between, loosely, the neoconservatives and the realists. The old realpolitik crowd dispute that the war on terror is a war at all, except in the debased sense of the war on drugs. Thats to say, terror, like drugs, will always be with us, and the best thing to do is manage and contain the situation through the usual long-established mechanisms a quiet word with Crown Prince Abdullah here, a modest initiative with M. Chirac there. Insofar as I can remember anything Sir Crispin Tickell or Lord Hurd said in these pages a few issues back, that seems to be the gist of it.
The problem, as some of us saw it, is that the realists arent very realistic. Arguably, its 40 years of Washington realpolitik in the Middle East that gave us 9/11. I said as much here a couple of weeks afterwards, advocating the dismantling of Saudi Arabia, and Ive said it on many occasions since. Used to get appreciative notes from chaps at the Pentagon, and even on occasion from the State Department.
But not any more. The current thinking is that the neocons have overplayed their hand, with their insane plans to make the world safe for truth, justice and the American way. The US is said to be suffering from pre-emption fatigue. No ones in any mood to liberate Syria or destabilise Iran. According to the Washington Post, Kerry Says Global Democracy Is Not His Top Issue. If Bush wants to play Woodrow Wilson, Kerrys happy to run as Henry Kissinger. Indeed, even Bush seems to be moving to a post-pre-emptive strategy. You get the feeling that if they got wind that North Korea was going to nuke Tokyo on Wednesday, the Administration would wait to see what ideas Jacques and Vlad wanted to kick around at the emergency Security Council meeting on Thursday.
The reason for this pre-emption fatigue is, of course, Iraq. The little local difficulties confirm the realists in their belief that restraint, stability, a steady hand on the tiller, etc., are better bets than radical transformation.
Sorry, but no sale, effendi. One thing you notice from a casual glance around the world is that just as many people seem to be dying in those places where were pursuing containment as in those where were toppling dictators and holding loya jirgas. For example, some 30 people died in various attacks in Iraq on Monday. Bad news, but then what do you expect? Its a notorious quagmire, on the TV round the clock. But then the same day in Karachi 16 people died in one bombing of a Shia mosque, apparently in retaliation for the assassination of a Sunni cleric on Sunday. Last week there were two car bombings in Karachi. Earlier in May, a suicide bomber killed 24 people and injured 125 at another Shia mosque in the city. The Sunni-Shia civil war that the media keep insisting is about to break out in Iraq is already breaking out in Pakistan, a nuclear state filled with crazy graduates of Saudi madrasahs.
Speaking of our friends the Saudis, when the latest group of militants stormed that compound in Khobar the other day they grabbed an Iraqi-American and asked him, Are you Muslim or Christian? We dont want to kill Muslims. Show us where the Americans and Westerners live. Their final tally suggested a somewhat broad definition of Americans and Westerners: one American, one Italian, one South African, one Swede, one Egyptian, two Britons, two Sri Lankans, three Filipinos, three Saudis and eight Indians. The British oil executive Michael Hamilton was killed in front of his colleagues from Apicorp (Arab Petroleum Investments) and then dragged through the streets from the back of a car for over a mile.
Say what you like about these wacky Islamofascists but theyve got it pretty well thought out: desecrate and flaunt the corpses of the big-time infidels; murder the Asian janitors and maids to collapse the support structure of the expat communities; kill the Saudis as a warning to the locals not to collaborate with the foreign devils; and put a big announcement on the Internet declaring that our heroic fighters were able, by the grace of God, to raid the locations of the occupying American oil companies ...which are plundering the Muslims resources.
Not a bad days work. And how did the Saudi authorities react? Well, as is now traditional, the perpetrators got away. Just as the perpetrators of last Novembers terror attack in Mecca got away, and the terrorists in last Augusts firefight with police mysteriously disappeared, and the al-Qaeda members surrounded by the security forces last May managed to shoot their way out. The authorities are ruthlessly efficient when it comes to chasing Saudi schoolgirls whove made the mistake of fleeing without first putting on their head coverings and shooing them back into their burning schoolhouse to perish in the flames. But every time they have some al-Qaeda-affiliated terrorists surrounded, the bad guys mysteriously fly the coop.
Whats going on? Either the Saudi police agencies are totally incompetent, as suggested by their high level of casualties on these occasions. Or a significant proportion are hopelessly corrupt and on the take from the terrorists. Or theyre under the sway of some of the murkier members of the royal family. Or theyre following orders from higher up the chain of command, maybe even from the long-time (three decades) interior minister Prince Nayef himself.
It doesnt really matter which one you pick because they all boil down to the same thing that the urbane Westernised princes in the Savile Row suits who get put up on CNN to assure America that the situations totally under control cannot deliver. And although Prince Bandar, the oleaginous Washington ambassador, is careful not to say anything too goofy in the US media, back home his dad, Prince Sultan, and his uncles sound nuttier by the day. In November 2002, Prince Nayef insisted that no Saudis were involved in 9/11 and that, in fact, the Jews are behind these events. Nayef sides with the anti-American Wahabi clerics and this was his way of explaining why he wasnt going to crack down on Islamist terrorists, as they clearly have nothing to do with Islamist terrorism.
Prince Nayefs half-brother and rival, Crown Prince Abdullah, on the other hand, is the famously pro-American liberal reformer. So last month, when terrorists killed various American, British and Australian expats in the Red Sea town of Yanbu, Abdullah went on state television and said, I am 95 per cent sure that Zionism is behind the attacks, for I believe that [the Zionists] play in the minds of those who are committing the attacks.
Hmm. With pro-American liberal reformers like that, who needs anti-American clerical reactionaries?
The polite thing among the ex-US ambassadors now shilling for Abdullah on various Saudi-funded think tanks is to ignore any statement that any senior prince tells his own people. Were supposed to agree to overlook what the House of Saud says in Arabic rather than CNN English. My distinguished colleague Bruce Anderson was doing a bit of this the other day, describing Crown Prince Abdullah as able. Several adjectives spring to mind for a man who claims that Zionism has the youth of Saudi Arabia in its grip bonkers or desperate, depending on whether you think he believes it. But able would come pretty low down on my list.
This week Magdi Allam of Corriere della Sera advanced an interesting thesis on Abdullahs I-blame-the-Zionists speech. Its explained, say Allams sources, by a new deal between the House of Saud and al-Qaeda designed to save their throne. Again, it doesnt especially matter if thats true or not. When a hitherto relatively sane man (by the standards of the regions rulers) starts pandering to the most delusional conspiracy theories of his people, hes not a good long-term proposition.
Right now, which would you bet on? That Crown Prince Abdullah, Prince Sultan, Prince Nayef and cos brilliant strategy of denying that theres a problem, buying off the terrorists, letting them escape and saying theyre all Zionists will be able to reform their failing state or at least hold the lid on? Or that the current spate of attacks will increase and intensify, driving out Westerners, destabilising the oil markets, undermining the economy and gradually, remorselessly conscripting more and more of the population into al-Qaedas ranks? King Fahd is in poor health with short-term memory loss. Fahds successor, Abdullah, and Abdullahs successor, Sultan, are both pushing 80. Nayef is a whippersnapper in his early seventies and covets the throne himself. What would a death out of sequence do to the balance of power in the House of Saud? And who, honestly, has a clue about how deep al-Qaedas tentacles go into the royal family?
And, given that its the Saudi government that funds all the madrasahs that form the ideological backbone of Islamist terrorism, is there any point in pretending that the House of Saud and al-Qaeda are on opposite sides rather than twin manifestations of the same problem? The West backs the Saudi regime as a bulwark against local destabilisation, in return for which they underwrite destabilisation of the West across the entire planet.
Heres another question for the realists. Patrick Bishop (in the Telegraph) says we must keep the House of Saud in power at all costs. But what is the House of Saud? Its 30,000 strong, and half of them are playing both sides. Supporting the House of Saud is like saying you support the Premier League: its insufficient as a choice. Is it worth keeping a House of Saud led by a reformist Abdullah in power at all costs? Maybe. Is it worth keeping Abdullah when hes abandoned reforms and done a deal with the terrorists? Doubtful. Is it worth keeping the House of Saud in power when they give the throne to Prince Nayef? Its a mistake to think Saudi Arabia can only be lost when President bin Jihad takes over in a revolution. There are all kinds of intermediate stages at which you can lose the country, and the House of Saud is still nominally in charge. Indeed, you can make the case that weve already crossed most of them. In the end, a containment policy plays on your enemys terms: youre trying to stand still, he makes all the running.
That was the lesson of the Nineties: you try to fight a war defensively, you lose. You send the FBI in to look over Khobar Towers as a crime scene, and Prince Nayef obstructs your investigators. You try to lob a couple of cruise missiles at Osama in Afghanistan, and Pakistans Inter-Services Intelligence picks them up on the radar and tips him off. Thats the world John Kerry wants to return to. Theres no reason for Bush to join him there. Its not possible to manage Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, Syria and a myriad of smaller problems indefinitely. So manage the smaller problems and, when it comes to the biggest ones, confront them and fix them.
What exactly is realist about continuing to back the Frankensaud monster? The present policy is all but certain to wind up delivering the peninsula and its oil into the hands of Osamas buddies. In one sense, the war on terror is a Saudi civil war which the Saudis cunningly exported to the rest of the world. The trick now is to gift-wrap it and send it back home marked for the attention of Prince Nayef. Given the inevitability of disaster if we stick to a failed containment strategy, how could things be any worse if we went in for some creative disruption? At the very minimum, Washington needs to have solid, detailed contingency plans for securing the oil fields, and making sure the Hashemites are on stand-by to return to Mecca and Medina. Saudi Arabia cant be saved, and the more we postpone reaching that conclusion and acting on it, the messier its going to be. Whoever youre backing in November, the quiet life isnt on the ballot.
Ping
Unfortunately, I'm sure that plan has our troops going in and seizing the Saudi oil fields and maintaining an armed presence at all costs, while our so called European and Asian allies (along with the gutless POS United Nations)sit back and spill no blood or expense.
But these so-called allies will demand the booty and show no appreciation for our efforts, like the ingrates they have always been, and we'll bend over backwards to placate them, IMHO.
I don't have your faith that air power alone can stop modern mechanized manuever. And I think your hope is misplaced.
If we are forced to secure the oil fields, we should mandate a 'security fee' on every barrel of oil loaded onto tankers not bound for the US. I think $5/bbl would be appropriate. They'll chip in, like it or not.
Just ask the Iraqis how hard it is to maneuver mechanized columns under air attack. They got a hard lesson in 1991 and as a result they hardly even tried to do so again last year. I am unconcerned that whatever force the jihadis could muster would be able to even come close to conquering our allies in the region.
Thanks for the ping, Pokey.
Steyn's insights are astounding -- great read.
Might as well go down swinging instead of like poor Nick Berg. Count me in.
Of course we do.
We are talking about some rinky dink countries. They could get tanks from the border to the airports inside of 2 hours. That is a far cry from manuevering against major US forces in central Iraq. I don't doubt that the air force could inflict damage. I do doubt they could stop them. The air force's best capability is against soft logistic targets...they wouldn't even need to bring logistics to the fight...it would be over before they needed gas. The Air Force just isn't very good at killing tanks except for A-10's, which are very vulnerable to SAMs. At least enough tanks would make it to the POMCUS and air bases to devastate whatever is there.
Not even close. When their supply lines started getting hammered they would have to withdraw. I've been to Qatar, I was stationed at As Sayliyah, that narrow peninsula has a couple of really good choke points (and its not like the Qataris would just be sitting back doing nothing). An attack on the UAE would force the new saudi army to extend its supply lines even further and would leave them vulnerable from a counterattack from us on their flank. I am not at all worried that a jihadi army would sweep the Arabian peninsula. Anyone who has observed any Arab army in action knows how truly pathetic they really are.
Yeah, I think I could support that. It's high time our secret enemies are brought out in the open. It's time to end the B. S.
Given that the president and Vice-President both have an intimate understanding of the oil business and world energy markets, you bet your ass we do.
And, given the utter ignorance of the left, you can bet that Kerry never would.
Pokey78: worthy of Steyn.
Thanks.
The statement I'm about to make would make every liberal, and some on this forum, faint dead away. However, I'll say it anyway.
At some point, maybe sooner than later the way this Saudi thing is boiling over, the U.S. will have to go in - as in "D-Day" go in - meaning years of planning and massive committment - and simply take out the entire region. The oil fields & total power CANNOT be allowed to fall into the hands of these Moose Limb whacko's.
That's all there is to it. Period. End of story. We are going to have to take over.
bump!
The smartest thing Abdullah could do is to pin this on Nayef's incompetence. He could even make it a religous thing if he wants. He could say that Nayef has failed to protect the kingdom and failed God. That would work.
bttt
We will set them back a bit but if we are unable to respond rapidly and massively to situations because we lack the oil then we lose the little control we have in Pakistan and we lose authority in Korea and around Taiwan. China will be hurting for oil, too but if the Chinese Reds think that they can take Taiwan and push US out of Asia with one great spasm, they will do that and we will have to use nukes if we can muster the will. If Kerry or Mrs. Bill is pres and we are taking 911 hits at home we will but probably not judiciously. I don't count on W or a Republican followup doing it at all.
Sounds good to me!
Why do you believe Kerry or Hillary would be more likely to use nukes than a Republican?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.