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Mossawa: Outlaw Talk of 'Transfer' - Expulsion of Jews Fine, Though
Arutz 7 ^ | June 1, 2004 | staff

Posted on 06/01/2004 8:40:02 PM PDT by Nachum

An organization working on behalf of Israel's Arab citizens is calling for legislation making the mere discussion of "transfer" illegal. INN spoke with one of its representatives about the "transfer" of Jews from Yesha.

The release of a new report today by the Mossawa Advocacy Center for Arab Citizens in Israel regarding the treatment of Israeli Arabs was covered extensively in the Israeli press. The report's authors accuse Israeli authorities, the police and the judicial system of creating a climate of violence and racism against Arab citizens of Israel.

Mossawa’s report comes days after Transportation Minister Avigdor Lieberman (National Union) announced his plan for a "separation of nations," which would “transfer” Israeli Arabs deemed disloyal to the State of Israel. Mossawa called for new legislation making public discussion of such steps illegal. The report also condemns Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's contention that Israel's Arab citizens constitute a "demographic problem" – citing it as an example of discourse it wishes to make illegal.

The organization, finding that 22% of Israeli Jews would vote for the outlawed Kach party - whose platform was the transfer of Arabs hostile to the Jewish State - is promoting legislation that would make it illegal to discuss the ‘transfer’ or expulsion of Israel’s Arabs. However, the organization told Israel National News that it sees no problem with the transfer of Jews and does not wish to outlaw discussion of that.

Arutz-7’s Ezra HaLevi talked to Mossawa spokesperson Abir Kopty, asking her what the legislative goals of her organization are. >[? “In an environment that is increasingly perceiving Arabs as a threat to the state of Israel, we are calling on the Israeli government to make it illegal to discuss transfer,” said Kopty.

“So you are against the transfer of any Israeli citizen?” asked HaLevi.

“That is correct,” replied Kopty.

“So you would agree that the forced transfer of Jewish citizens from Judea, Samaria and Gaza is reprehensible as well,” HaLevi asked.

“That is different – we don’t call that transfer, that is dismantling of settlements – we are speaking about the forced removal of people who were born here,” said Kopty, audibly flustered.

“So basically, Jews born in Judea, Samaria and Gaza can be thrown out of their homes, but the mere discussion of relocating Arabs involved with terrorism from within Israel’s pre-1967 borders should be made into a crime,” asked HaLevi.

“Look, we deal with ensuring the equal rights of Arab citizens in Israel – it is not comparable to people living in illegally occupied territories [sic],” Kopty replied.

The report also claims that Israeli Arabs do not receive protection from the police and are in fact targeted for violence, citing numerous cases of “illegal and unjustified police shootings of Arab citizens.” They also claim that there is a leniency for the police and the courts to be soft on “displays of racism against Arabs by private citizens and public figures.”

An investigation by Ha’aretz, however, revealed that at least one of the “16 Arab citizens killed by gunfire from police and security forces since October 2000 was not killed ‘by security forces' gunfire,’ as was written in the report, [but] actually killed in a motorcycle accident while being chased by police.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: expulsion; fine; jews; mossawa; orwell; outlaw; talk; though; transfer
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Transfer, transfer, transfer.
1 posted on 06/01/2004 8:40:03 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

What a great idea. I'm glad they brought it up.


2 posted on 06/01/2004 8:43:40 PM PDT by aynrandfreak (If 9/11 didn't change you, you're a bad human being)
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To: Nachum

I'll put it in other words: "DEPORT THE JIHADISTS!"


3 posted on 06/01/2004 10:11:03 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Nachum

Thanks Nathan. I am a friend of Benyamin Begin, and I believe he could be the next PM--Sharon may not survive the next confidence vote...


4 posted on 06/01/2004 10:19:13 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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I have seen Benny Begin speak in the United States. He is a very impressive fellow. He seems to have his father's intellectual fervor. I wish him all success.

In terms of transfer, there is a very reasonable approach that could be used if both sides want peace. Nobody who is willing to live peacefully should be forced to leave their homes. If there is a Palestinian State, Jews who live within its borders would have the option of voting within Israel or within that state. The same would be true of Arabs within Israel. Either state could require certain shows of support in order to allow the person citizenship or voting rights. Acceptance of that state and its right to exist would be obvious. That way an Arab who sits around wishing the Jews would go away but lives within the laws would be free to stay in Israel. Those who refuse the full obligations of Israeli citizenship (such as military service) would be foreign residents with no voting or citizenship rights. The same would apply to Jews in Gaza and Judea and Samaria.

6 posted on 06/01/2004 10:29:33 PM PDT by Honestfreedom
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To: Honestfreedom

Absolutely unworkable in reality.


7 posted on 06/01/2004 11:12:10 PM PDT by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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8 posted on 06/02/2004 7:46:49 AM PDT by SJackson (Be careful -- with quotations, you can damn anything, Andre Malraux)
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To: Honestfreedom
Logical, it sounds a bit like the Elon plan.

Of course to my knowledge there exists no Arab organization of any consequence (actually none I can think of) who would consider letting Jews live in an newly created Arab state.

By your logic, Jews could continue to live in Gaza, perhaps providing jobs for their peaceful Arab neighbors. What a crazy idea.

9 posted on 06/02/2004 7:50:44 AM PDT by SJackson (Be careful -- with quotations, you can damn anything, Andre Malraux)
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That is different – we don’t call that transfer, that is dismantling of settlements

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10 posted on 06/02/2004 7:51:18 AM PDT by Alouette (Dear Dad & Uncle Ira & all USA vets--Thank you for my Freedom.)
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To: Honestfreedom
I have seen Benny Begin speak in the United States. He is a very impressive fellow. He seems to have his father's intellectual fervor. I wish him all success.

His father was a traitorous pig. May he rot in hell for what he did at Camp David.

11 posted on 06/02/2004 7:54:55 AM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: Nachum
“So you would agree that the forced transfer of Jewish citizens from Judea, Samaria and Gaza is reprehensible as well,” HaLevi asked.

“That is different – we don’t call that transfer, that is dismantling of settlements – we are speaking about the forced removal of people who were born hereJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS,” said Kopty, audibly flustered.

Edited for clarity.

12 posted on 06/02/2004 7:59:30 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: montag813

I agree that the Camp David agreement is overrated in terms of what it did for Israel vs what Israel gave up. However, there was no way any Prime Minister could have not gone along with it.


13 posted on 06/02/2004 8:24:29 AM PDT by Honestfreedom
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To: SJackson
Of course to my knowledge there exists no Arab organization of any consequence (actually none I can think of) who would consider letting Jews live in an newly created Arab state. By your logic, Jews could continue to live in Gaza, perhaps providing jobs for their peaceful Arab neighbors. What a crazy idea.<<

That is why all the talk of peace is a sham. The ideas of peace that float around all require Jews to admit they have a lesser status in the area than Arabs, they are based on the expectation that having land and dominance is the key to Arab expectations. The Arabs are not looking for peace they are looking for land and dominance and if they cannot have it they won't even pretend to want peace.

14 posted on 06/02/2004 8:27:36 AM PDT by Honestfreedom
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To: Honestfreedom
That is why all the talk of peace is a sham....

You're right. Until there's someone to negotiate with who recognizes that, if you create a palestinian state, palestinian refugees need to live in it, there's nothing much to negotiate. GWB came close, but changed his mind.

16 posted on 06/02/2004 8:35:19 AM PDT by SJackson (no Jim Crow, no anti-semitism, education, medical care for everyone-Kerry slogan author on Stalin)
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To: Yehuda

What would it take for Kach to be unbanned?

After all, Kach isn't only supported by the Orthodox - there are many Conservative and Secular Jews who also support Kach.


17 posted on 06/02/2004 10:23:40 AM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: montag813
Did you just call the last commander of LeHI a traitor?
19 posted on 06/02/2004 7:00:05 PM PDT by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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Did you just call the last commander of LeHI a traitor?

Damn straight. It is all too common for former Israeli commanders and generals to turn into sickeningly weak Prime Ministers, ready to cave in to Israel's eternal enemies for the sake of a one-sided phony "peace". At Camp David what Begin did was a disgrace, only to be outdone by the vile Rabin, who should rot in hell. Barak himself was prepared to give up the store yet again, despite the victims of Oslo, but was saved by Arafat's stupidity. Hopes abound for Sharon, but despite a good start, the recent evidence is not encouraging, as he is willing to blithely cleanse 8,500 Jews from Gaza, without even a suggestion of expelling an equal amount of Israeli Arabs.

20 posted on 06/02/2004 7:24:42 PM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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