Posted on 06/01/2004 6:09:43 PM PDT by lancer
Hooper should know...
Another incisive article by Pipes. As he says, research is the answer.
Ah, yeah, they are. So?
How did they count the six degrees? Was the same degree counted twice just to increase the number? Would be interesting to know.
Ask CAIR.
Samer Horani of the Islamic Center of Portland? Guess what? You are now on the radar. Smile for the nice camera.
If we actually do get one or more large domestic terrorist attacks, I expect that it will be bad for muslims in America.
If the events are large enough and are conclusively linked to any American muslims or mosques, I'll be surprised if we don't see some lynching.
I don't like lynching, I don't care who it is.
I simply wish the muslim community in America would wake up and realize the potential for serious unpleasantness if their insular nature and protective tendencies aid or abet a terrorist attack.
WHY did they Justice Department let this scum go??? He's clearly a suspect on the grounds of treason (aiding the enemy), if not direct terrorism. If they released him so they could watch his travels, his communications, etc., then fine ... good ... catch some more scum with him.
As for most Muslims being no more than 6 degrees of Separation removed from terrorists .... it's more like 2 or 3 degrees. Jamal Blow (non-terrorist Muslim) knows Imam X, head of his Masque (and also not, himself, an active terrorist), who sends funds to Mr. Z. Al Queda ... who IS a terrorist. That's about as far removed as it gets. 2 degrees. Sometimes it's three degrees ... even in those rare cases where the Masque one prays in doesn't directly support Terrorists, it's beyond question that their Imam and other leaders know and deal with Muslims who DO know terrorists.
I think you are probably right, 2, maybe 3 degrees of separation. Six would be the absolute outside.
As for letting him go, I'm sure he is on a short leash.
This man, his family and his religion want to live in a country that affords them freedom but rather than assimilate and become Americans, they choose to defile the very things this country stands for. Political Correctness is out and Profiling is in!
What earthly right does this man or any Muslim, have to trash my country, my Western Culture and still expect to live peacefully in America? Love it or leave it Mr. Mayfield! Thank heavens we have the Patriot Act that stops some of these people. As far as I am concerned, CAIR should be disbanded in America for the time being.
I have been singled out and discriminated against, I feel, as a Muslim
If he were truly being discriminated against he would still be in custody.
Here's Mayfield again.
Cut all their heads off, Allah likes that kind of stuff.
I had no idea you were Muslim? although I know you can translate a bit...
Sounds like an excellent idea!
Yeah, well, until you show us how to tell the difference between a fundamentalist and "moderate" moslem by sight, Mr. Horani, we will just have to keep that attitude, too.
The true moslem believes the koran which tells him to kill all non-moslems.
Heck no. I am not a muslim. I just copied what the whiner said.
I am repeating part of this that the biased media and mr poops pipes don't want you to hear or see:
"If You Are Muslim, You Are Suspect" by Daniel Pipes
New York Sun
June 1, 2004
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The U.S. government wrongly arrested Brandon Mayfield, 37, of Beaverton, Ore. on May 6. A fingerprint sent from Madrid apparently connected him to the March 11 bombings there that killed 191 people and injured 2,000. When the Spanish government identified the fingerprint as that of an Algerian, the Department of Justice requested that Mr. Mayfield be released, and he was.
Putting aside the technical mistake, the Justice Department has come under criticism for having built its case against Mr. Mayfield in part by noting his Islamic affiliations. "I am an American Muslim," Mr. Mayfield declared on release; "I have been singled out and discriminated against, I feel, as a Muslim." His father Bill concurred: "They picked him out because they wanted someone who fit this profile. This was the closest they had, and he was a Muslim."
"If you are Muslim you are suspect," commented Samer Horani of the Islamic Center of Portland. Dave Fidanque of the American Civil Liberties Union piled on: "as far as the Justice Department is concerned, if you're Muslim and attend particular mosques that are suspect, you're presumed guilty until you're proved innocent." The New York Times disapprovingly notes that the decision to detain Mr. Mayfield "was clearly influenced by his Muslim ties."
But did U.S. law enforcement err in noting Mr. Mayfield 's identity?
No, this was entirely appropriate. It would have been myopic to ignore Mr. Mayfield 's many connections to militant Islam and the global jihad.
He prayed in the same Bilal Mosque as did several individuals (Maher Nawash, Ahmed Ibrahim Bilal, Muhammad Ibrahim Bilal) who pleaded guilty in 2003 to conspiring to help the Taliban. The mosque's website includes links to militant Islamic organizations, including some "charities" closed down by the U.S. government for funding terrorism. Saudi specialist Stephen Schwartz finds Bilal to be "a fairly typical Wahhabi-controlled mosque."
While studying law at Washburn University in Kansas, Mr. Mayfield helped organize a branch of the Muslim Student Association, a group described by analyst Jonathan Dowd-Gailey as "an overtly political organization" espousing "Wahhabism, anti-Americanism, and anti-Semitism … and expressing solidarity with militant Islamic ideologies, sometimes with criminal results."
In 2002, Mr. Mayfield volunteered to represent Jeffrey Leon Battle – who subsequently pleaded guilty to conspiracy to levy war against America and was sentenced to 18 years in prison – in a custody dispute over his then-6-year-old son. Strangely (according to Quanell X, national spokesperson for the New Black Panthers and a friend of Battle's), Mr. Mayfield flew to Texas at his own expense for Battle's sake.
Someone in Mr. Mayfield 's house was in telephone contact with Perouz Sedaghaty (a.k.a. Pete Seda),[1] director of the U.S. office of the Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation, a number of whose foreign branches have been designated as terrorist organizations.
Mr. Mayfield advertised his solo law practice in a "Muslim" yellow pages run by Jerusalem Enterprises Inc., a company owned by Farid Adlouni. Adlouni is a person "directly linked in business dealings" with Wadih El Hage, Osama Bin Laden's personal secretary in the 1990s and convicted of conspiring to murder U.S. citizens in 2001.
In addition:
Mr. Mayfield 's political profile fits that of many disaffected, America-hating terrorists: he strongly opposes the Patriot Act, inveighs against American foreign policy related to Muslim countries, and is "particularly angered," according to his brother Kent, by close U.S. relations with Israel. Mr. Mayfield speculates that the Bush administration knew in advance about 9/11 but chose to let the attacks go ahead so as to justify going to war. And on his release from custody, he compared the U.S. federal government to Nazi Germany.
In common with many violence-prone Islamists in the United States (including Maher Hawash, Mohammed Ali Alayed, Zacarias Moussaoui, and the "Lackawanna Six"), Mr. Mayfield went from being a nominal Muslim to one whose Islamic beliefs "got more and more intense."
Are government prosecutors, when they have apparently incriminating physical evidence, supposed to shut their eyes and disregard these many connections and patterns? The Justice Department was simply doing its job in pointing them out.
Even Ibrahim Hooper of the Council on American-Islamic Relations – an Islamist group with multiple connections of its own to violence – admits that "no Muslim is more than six degrees away from terrorism." Governments worldwide must take this reality into account.
In America, "Islam" IS--& Will Always Be--"Suspect" in ANY Irrational attacks on Americans.
Until the "American Islamic Community" RISES UP, SLAPS DOWN, & TURNS IN the "Jihardists," the ENTIRE SUBCULTURE will be "Suspect!"
Without such a BLATANT STATEMENT of Loyalty to America, ALL of "Islam" is Suspect!
After Such an Attack as 9/11, NO ONE "Of the Islamic Faith" can be trusted.
If the "Followers of Islam" in America Cannot Understand their Moral Position in America--They Should Leave.
Since the "Islamic Leaders" in America have remained Silent after 9/11, ANY Furthur attacks MUST BE assumed to be greeted by furthur silence.
America WILL NOT ACCEPT "Silence" from Official Representatives of a Cult which has Murdered our Citizens.
Without a VIOLENT, NEGATIVE response to attacks on our Citizens by Psychopathic Adherents to "Islam," we MUST ASSUME that these Attacks are "Condoned!!"
After the Deaths of Thousands of Innocents, there is NO SUCH ATTITUDE as "DETATCHED INDIFFERENCE!!"
If "Muslim Activists" Murdered 3000+ Innocents, then the "Followers of "Islam" are MORALLY REQUIRED to CONDEMN their act.
Absent a SCREAMING REPUDIATION of that act of Barbarism by the "Belief System" in Whose Name the Act was Perpetrated,--we MUST ASSUME that the "Adherents of" said "Belief System" approve of the Murder of 3000+ individuals.
Certainly, "Islam" hasn't shown ANY inclination to produce conspirators ( there Must have been Many) who collaborated in this despicable act.
It Appears that "Islam" wishes to protect Those who Murder "Westerners."
So Be IT!!
Following 9/11--especially following "Islam's" REMARKABLE SILENCE & UNWILLINGNESS to produce co-conspirators in 9/11--ALL of "Islam" "In the West" should be "Suspect," & NO ONE INDIVIDUAL who associates with organized "Islam" should be "Dismissed" as "Benign!!"
If They Wish to "Destroy Us," we need to be willing to "Return the Favor!!"
"Islam" reminds me of the Totally Amoral "Emperor-Worship" of the WW!! Japanese.
Both "Psychopathologies" use "Suicide-Bombers!!"
Doc
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