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"no Muslim is more than six degrees away from terrorism."

Hooper should know...

Another incisive article by Pipes. As he says, research is the answer.

1 posted on 06/01/2004 6:09:45 PM PDT by lancer
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To: lancer

Ah, yeah, they are. So?


2 posted on 06/01/2004 6:11:05 PM PDT by ladyinred (The leftist media is the enemy within. John Kerry even flips&flops with his finger!)
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To: lancer

How did they count the six degrees? Was the same degree counted twice just to increase the number? Would be interesting to know.


3 posted on 06/01/2004 6:13:09 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: lancer

Samer Horani of the Islamic Center of Portland? Guess what? You are now on the radar. Smile for the nice camera.


5 posted on 06/01/2004 6:19:22 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: lancer

If we actually do get one or more large domestic terrorist attacks, I expect that it will be bad for muslims in America.

If the events are large enough and are conclusively linked to any American muslims or mosques, I'll be surprised if we don't see some lynching.

I don't like lynching, I don't care who it is.

I simply wish the muslim community in America would wake up and realize the potential for serious unpleasantness if their insular nature and protective tendencies aid or abet a terrorist attack.


6 posted on 06/01/2004 6:29:50 PM PDT by El Sordo
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To: lancer
”Are government prosecutors, when they have apparently incriminating physical evidence, supposed to shut their eyes and disregard these many connections and patterns? The Justice Department was simply doing its job in pointing them out”.

This man, his family and his religion want to live in a country that affords them freedom but rather than assimilate and become Americans, they choose to defile the very things this country stands for. Political Correctness is out and Profiling is in!

What earthly right does this man or any Muslim, have to trash my country, my Western Culture and still expect to live peacefully in America? Love it or leave it Mr. Mayfield! Thank heavens we have the Patriot Act that stops some of these people. As far as I am concerned, CAIR should be disbanded in America for the time being.

9 posted on 06/01/2004 6:46:19 PM PDT by yoe
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To: lancer

I have been singled out and discriminated against, I feel, as a Muslim

If he were truly being discriminated against he would still be in custody.


10 posted on 06/01/2004 6:48:46 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: Miss Marple; oceanview; Cold Heart

Here's Mayfield again.


11 posted on 06/01/2004 6:51:42 PM PDT by txhurl (Time for the NeoCrusade.)
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To: lancer

Cut all their heads off, Allah likes that kind of stuff.


12 posted on 06/01/2004 6:56:12 PM PDT by blam
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To: lancer
"If you are Muslim you are suspect,"

Sounds like an excellent idea!

15 posted on 06/01/2004 7:02:46 PM PDT by neutrino (Everybody, soon or late, sits down to a banquet of consequences. Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: lancer
"If you are Muslim you are suspect," commented Samer Horani of the Islamic Center of Portland.

Yeah, well, until you show us how to tell the difference between a fundamentalist and "moderate" moslem by sight, Mr. Horani, we will just have to keep that attitude, too.

The true moslem believes the koran which tells him to kill all non-moslems.

16 posted on 06/01/2004 7:12:06 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: lancer; BOBWADE
ISLAM - THE RELIGION OF PEACE. NOT

I am repeating part of this that the biased media and mr poops pipes don't want you to hear or see:

"If You Are Muslim, You Are Suspect" by Daniel Pipes
New York Sun
June 1, 2004
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The U.S. government wrongly arrested Brandon Mayfield, 37, of Beaverton, Ore. on May 6. A fingerprint sent from Madrid apparently connected him to the March 11 bombings there that killed 191 people and injured 2,000. When the Spanish government identified the fingerprint as that of an Algerian, the Department of Justice requested that Mr. Mayfield be released, and he was.

Putting aside the technical mistake, the Justice Department has come under criticism for having built its case against Mr. Mayfield in part by noting his Islamic affiliations. "I am an American Muslim," Mr. Mayfield declared on release; "I have been singled out and discriminated against, I feel, as a Muslim." His father Bill concurred: "They picked him out because they wanted someone who fit this profile. This was the closest they had, and he was a Muslim."

"If you are Muslim you are suspect," commented Samer Horani of the Islamic Center of Portland. Dave Fidanque of the American Civil Liberties Union piled on: "as far as the Justice Department is concerned, if you're Muslim and attend particular mosques that are suspect, you're presumed guilty until you're proved innocent." The New York Times disapprovingly notes that the decision to detain Mr. Mayfield "was clearly influenced by his Muslim ties."

But did U.S. law enforcement err in noting Mr. Mayfield 's identity?
No, this was entirely appropriate. It would have been myopic to ignore Mr. Mayfield 's many connections to militant Islam and the global jihad.

He prayed in the same Bilal Mosque as did several individuals (Maher Nawash, Ahmed Ibrahim Bilal, Muhammad Ibrahim Bilal) who pleaded guilty in 2003 to conspiring to help the Taliban. The mosque's website includes links to militant Islamic organizations, including some "charities" closed down by the U.S. government for funding terrorism. Saudi specialist Stephen Schwartz finds Bilal to be "a fairly typical Wahhabi-controlled mosque."

While studying law at Washburn University in Kansas, Mr. Mayfield helped organize a branch of the Muslim Student Association, a group described by analyst Jonathan Dowd-Gailey as "an overtly political organization" espousing "Wahhabism, anti-Americanism, and anti-Semitism … and expressing solidarity with militant Islamic ideologies, sometimes with criminal results."

In 2002, Mr. Mayfield volunteered to represent Jeffrey Leon Battle – who subsequently pleaded guilty to conspiracy to levy war against America and was sentenced to 18 years in prison – in a custody dispute over his then-6-year-old son. Strangely (according to Quanell X, national spokesperson for the New Black Panthers and a friend of Battle's), Mr. Mayfield flew to Texas at his own expense for Battle's sake.

Someone in Mr. Mayfield 's house was in telephone contact with Perouz Sedaghaty (a.k.a. Pete Seda),[1] director of the U.S. office of the Al-Haramain Islamic Foundation, a number of whose foreign branches have been designated as terrorist organizations.

Mr. Mayfield advertised his solo law practice in a "Muslim" yellow pages run by Jerusalem Enterprises Inc., a company owned by Farid Adlouni. Adlouni is a person "directly linked in business dealings" with Wadih El Hage, Osama Bin Laden's personal secretary in the 1990s and convicted of conspiring to murder U.S. citizens in 2001.

In addition:
Mr. Mayfield 's political profile fits that of many disaffected, America-hating terrorists: he strongly opposes the Patriot Act, inveighs against American foreign policy related to Muslim countries, and is "particularly angered," according to his brother Kent, by close U.S. relations with Israel. Mr. Mayfield speculates that the Bush administration knew in advance about 9/11 but chose to let the attacks go ahead so as to justify going to war. And on his release from custody, he compared the U.S. federal government to Nazi Germany.

In common with many violence-prone Islamists in the United States (including Maher Hawash, Mohammed Ali Alayed, Zacarias Moussaoui, and the "Lackawanna Six"), Mr. Mayfield went from being a nominal Muslim to one whose Islamic beliefs "got more and more intense."

Are government prosecutors, when they have apparently incriminating physical evidence, supposed to shut their eyes and disregard these many connections and patterns? The Justice Department was simply doing its job in pointing them out.

Even Ibrahim Hooper of the Council on American-Islamic Relations – an Islamist group with multiple connections of its own to violence – admits that "no Muslim is more than six degrees away from terrorism." Governments worldwide must take this reality into account.

18 posted on 06/01/2004 7:29:27 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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To: lancer

As well as they should be.

My opinion is that every muslim in the U.S. should be deported by morning.


21 posted on 06/01/2004 8:05:31 PM PDT by sport
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To: lancer
Free association is allowed here, but I learned when just a small kid that it matters who you associate with. We were warned by my parents, the church, and the police about being careful who you hang out with. Even as a kid I could see to keep away from the bad kids who hang out in their own little groups seperating themselves from the rest of society around them.

At the time, I worked a quarter mile away from this guy's mosque. On their meeting days cars were parked for a quarter mile in every direction. For some time following 9/11 the place was empty. I'd say every muslim there was aware they are a lot less than six degrees away.

22 posted on 06/01/2004 9:03:08 PM PDT by saint
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