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Losing the vegan vote
Philadelphia Daily News ^ | 6/1/2004 | Dave Scopinich

Posted on 06/01/2004 5:44:52 AM PDT by dirtboy

I AM A conservative Republican on most issues.

But I can't donate to the GOP or vote for President Bush based on his - and the party's - stance on animal rights.

I am a vegan and a proud member of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. I'm disappointed that the Bush administration has done nothing to improve animals' lives.

I saw a video of President Bush at a campaign stop during the 2000 election. In it, a reporter asks "What do you think about PETA?"

Then-Gov. Bush responded sarcastically, "I'm glad I ate my bacon for breakfast today."

President Bush couldn't show PETA even the least bit of respect. That disappointed me as both an animal-rights activist and a Republican. I want the Republican National Committee to know that I am a Republican - and an animal- rights supporter.

I ask the RNC and GOP politicians to support animal rights via tougher laws against animal abusers and stricter regulations on factory farms, zoos, circuses, labs and the many other places where animals are exploited.

The Republican Party is supposed to be the party of Lincoln, who freed African- Americans from slavery. The Republican Party is supposed to the party that protects life - especially innocent life. Let's live up to those ideals when it comes to animals.

I will not be voting for John Kerry because I disagree with too many of his views, and I could never vote for a pro-choice candidate. But I will not vote for President Bush either because I can't vote for someone so anti-animal.

This is why President Bush has lost my vote in this key swing state. Unfortunately, the only vote I can cast in good conscience is to write in Chris P. Carrot, PETA's candidate, as a protest vote.

I hope someday people will see society's treatment of animals in the same light they do slavery and the Holocaust - as a mistake made by humanity at its worst.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: animalrights; animalwhackos; asshat; dope; hippieplant; idiot; moby; moron; organicdeoderant; peta; vegan; wingnut; yeahright
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To: dirtboy

Come on guys this one was too easy. You gotta throw this one back.


41 posted on 06/07/2004 1:37:00 PM PDT by bad company (free Khashayar)
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To: FrankR

What do we give the mules with their 40 acres?


42 posted on 06/07/2004 1:38:04 PM PDT by tnlibertarian (This tagline under construction)
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To: FeliciaCat
Here's a sample of PETA's real agenda:

Arafat gets asinine plea from PETA on intifada (Exploding jackass alert)
The Virginian-Pilot ^ | Feb. 5 2003 | Kerry Dougherty

43 posted on 06/07/2004 1:44:44 PM PDT by dufekin (John F. Kerry. Irrational, improvident, backward, seditious.)
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To: dirtboy
I want the Republican National Committee to know that I am a Republican - and an animal- rights supporter.

Please don't go to the Republican Convention. Dubya is hosting a good ole Texas barbeque. You won't like it. Wackos like you are supposed to attend the Democratic Convention. Be there and be among friends.

44 posted on 06/07/2004 1:46:07 PM PDT by JoeGar
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To: conservativepetamember
Your posts ensured me of two things: first, that some people actually read my letter and second, that I am smarter than most people who post on freerepublic.com.

Only in the dimly-lit recesses of your own mind, Dave. And I love your Biblical analysis (and I'm not a practicing Christian, so it's more for entertainment value that I rip it up):

"What you do to the least of my brethren, you do unto me." For all the Christians out there, I have a question: Do you really think Jesus would approve of the way we treat animals?

I don't think "brethen" equals hamsters, Dave. Or perhaps you are just engaging in some Clintonian parsing of what is a pretty clear term to the rest of us. Your animal-rights agenda diminishes humanity at the expense of animals when you try to pull this crap.

45 posted on 06/07/2004 1:51:11 PM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: dirtboy

Sure he's a Republican. I'm soooooo sorry we lost his vote.
This year, I hope Bush doesn't pardon the Thanksgiving turkey...


46 posted on 06/07/2004 1:52:57 PM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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To: dirtboy

Sure he's a Republican. I'm soooooo sorry we lost his vote.
This year, I hope Bush doesn't pardon the Thanksgiving turkey...


47 posted on 06/07/2004 1:53:03 PM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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To: conservativepetamember
7. I bet that most people who post on this site are pro-life just like me, yes? Well, isn't being pro-life all about protecting the innocent?

Innocent humans, yes. And when the lion lies down with the lamb and starts eating tofu burgers instead of gazelles, then maybe I'll listen to you. Until then, we have a food chain, and my ancestors worked very, very, very hard to get to the top of it, thank you.

I think all right-thinking ("right" meaning "correct" in this instance) people will agree that we don't HAVE to kill animals to survive. So why kill?

Gee, maybe because meat is good for you (and tasty as well)? Maybe because grazing for meat is a productive use of otherwise non-arable land? Maybe because animal testing saves human lives?

You won't find too many freepers who oppose more human husbandry and slaugher methods. But we draw the line at equating human life with animal life. Peta tends to do the opposite - the whackos tend to treat humans like a virus and animals as more important. Like another poster said, you really, really need to examine the views of the other members of this group. I can understand how you got there - but you made a wrong turn.

48 posted on 06/07/2004 1:55:49 PM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: dirtboy

All Peta does is carry out outlandish publicity stunts which are inexplicably covered by ALL the media, FOX included. I dare say I've never heard of Peta actually helping an animal. Local SPCA does more than these egotists every dreamed.


49 posted on 06/07/2004 1:57:14 PM PDT by manic4organic (Go. Fight. Win.)
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To: manic4organic
I dare say I've never heard of Peta actually helping an animal.

My favorite animal rights moments come when the wingnuts liberate thousands of minks from mink farms, which causes untold carnage to the local fauna due to the fact that minks are very nasty little predators.

50 posted on 06/07/2004 1:58:58 PM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: conservativepetamember
However, I believe that fact doesn't give us the right to kill animals for sport or food or clothing

Ah, the old anti-hunting argument. Guess what happens to deer when they're not hunted, Dave? They trash the ecosystem, because there are no large predators in many locals to keep them in check. And most sane people don't want to bring back mountain lions to the suburbs as a substitute for hunting.

Tell me, Dave - you're talking about God quite a bit and how he didn't give men the right to kill animals - so why then did he create predators? Are you saying a lion has the right to kill for food but we don't?

51 posted on 06/07/2004 2:03:58 PM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: Little Ray

My son noticed that every year since he can remember the Thanksgiving turkey that gets pardoned is a female. Should we consider this sexist?


52 posted on 06/07/2004 2:29:40 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy (Rest in Peace, President Reagan.)
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To: HungarianGypsy

Maybe most turkeys raised for slaughter are females?
Still sounds like a feminist plot.


53 posted on 06/07/2004 2:48:58 PM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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