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To: dennisw

BTW, we seem to have gotten better at protecting ourselves from these attacks. So far today, those killed have all been Iraqis - of course, these were probably mostly decent Iraqis who were just going about their business and wanted to have a good, normal life, something that these crazies cannot tolerate. The bizarre thing about them is that they seem to have no true objective except destruction.


6 posted on 06/01/2004 3:48:31 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius
The bizarre thing about them is that they seem to have no true objective except destruction.

My thought is that this is the only way they know how to "communicate". i.e. if the only tool you have is a hammer, everything begins to look like a nail.

Pretty primitive and simplistic.

10 posted on 06/01/2004 4:45:45 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: livius
BTW, we seem to have gotten better at protecting ourselves from these attacks. So far today, those killed have all been Iraqis - of course, these were probably mostly decent Iraqis who were just going about their business and wanted to have a good, normal life, something that these crazies cannot tolerate. The bizarre thing about them is that they seem to have no true objective except destruction.

BECAUSE at root Jihadism is anarchism and murder. With the end goal being a super repressive Islamic government where all those who oppose will be hammered down and at worst killed and with families liquidated. They have the advantage in remorseless murder. We have a conscience.

Islamic psycho killers will go for the soft target. So if Americans in Iraq are too well protected they will murder their fellow Muslims in order to create chaos and anarchy. Chaos and anarchy are the friends of the devil and the friends of the Jihadist thrill killers.

14 posted on 06/01/2004 5:32:30 AM PDT by dennisw ("Allah FUBAR!")
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http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22thrill+killers%22+islam&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=4052f1f3%40dnews.tpgi.com.au&rnum=1

You are wrong - the more a Moslem nation engages in jihad, the more miserable and poor it becomes. The best off Moslem nations (when one makes due allowance for natural advantanges) are the most secularised Moslem nations.

Moslems are in a sorry state, because their religion fosters violence, lack of human rights, poverty, slavery, ignorance, and oppression of women. Moslems have nobody to blame but themselves. The only reason they're no worse off, is because of oil that non-Moslems discovered, developed, and bought, while moslems passively rake in the proceeds. Nearly all the foreign aid going to non-oil exporting moslem countires comes from Christian countries.

> "So fight in the Path of Allah- you will be held accountable only for > yourself

This is truer than you think. Moslems will go to hell.

> Surely, Allah will subdue the might of the Disbelievers, and Allah is > mightier in power and severer in exemplary punishment."

Allah = Satan. Satan will lose

> We then are calling upon the Muslims and urging them to proceed to > fight, for many reasons,

The main reason, is that you enjoy killing.

> 1. In order that the Disbelievers do not dominate.

Almost every war fought by Islam for the last 1,000 years has been lost.

> 2. Due to the scarcity of men.

Moslem countries have high birth rates and exceptionally high infant mortality and maternal mortality rates.

> 3. Fear of Hell-fire.

If you fear hell-fire, renounce Islam.

> 4. Fulfilling the duty of Jihad, and responding to the call of the > Lord.

Your Lord Satan, otherwise known as "Allah"

> 5. Following in the footsteps of the Pious Predecessors.

There is a long line of thrill killers, going all the way back to the thrill killer Mohammad.

> 6. Establishing a solid foundation as a base for Islam.

Islam will not adapt to the modern world, and will eventually die. The "solid base" consists mainly of the world's poorest nations.

> 7. Protecting those who are oppressed in the land.

Islam is the world's greatest oppressor. Moslem countries are overwhelmingly where the oppressed live.

> 8. Hoping for martyrdom.

And in the process killing as many bystanders as you can, for the pleasure of killing.

> 9. A shield for the Ummah, and a means for lifting disgrace off them

Every person who kills for Islam brings more disgrace on Islam.

> 10. Protecting the dignity of the Ummah, and repelling the conspiracy > of its enemies

No - Islam will lose. Every murder a Moslem commits hastens its doom.

> 11. Preservation of the earth, and protection from corruption

Moslem societies are notorious for their corruption. Nobody does anything without a bribe.

> 12. Security of Islamic places of worship

Moslems kill many, many more of each other than the number of kafir they kill.

> 13. Protection of the Ummah from punishment, disfiguration

Hussein, a Moslem, cut off the tongues of Moslems who criticised him. Moslems are now fighting Jihads to try to re-install him. Moslem countries cut off the hands of petty offenders.

> and displacement.

Moslem countries produce nearly all the world's refugees.

> 14. Prosperity of the Ummah, and surplus of its resources

Islam is the leading cause of world poverty.

> 15. Jihad is the highest peak of Islam.

Yes. Thrill killing is the best it has to offer.

> 16. Jihad is the most excellent form of worship, and by means of it

Yes, because you worship Satan. So Jihad is devil worship par excellence. Thrill killing - what could be more Satanic than that?

> the Muslim can reach the highest of ranks.

Yes, you can get into the hottest hell.

> Praise be to Allah Whom we praise, and from Whom we seek help and > forgiveness. We seek refuge with Allah from the evil of our selves and > from our bad deeds.

No - you kill for pleasure in Allah's name.

> Whomever Allah guides none can lead astray,

Yes - you're sure to find your way to hell.

> whomever He leaves to stray, none can guide him aright. I bear witness > that there is none worthy of worship but Allah alone, Who has no > partners,

Allah has no partners - nobody is as evil

> and I bear witness that Muhammad is His Servant and > Messenger.

To his eternal shame.

> Oh Allah! There is nothing easy except that which You make > easy, and you make difficult things easy when You will.

It is easy to be evil, hard to be good.



15 posted on 06/01/2004 5:36:26 AM PDT by dennisw ("Allah FUBAR!")
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