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What Americans Are Thinking About Iraq
Chron Watch ^ | Monday, May 10, 2004 | Vincent Fiore

Posted on 06/01/2004 12:36:51 AM PDT by WKB

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What Americans Are Thinking About Iraq

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Tired of what, you ask? Well, let me tell you:

* We are tired of the transgressions of a handful of soldiers in Iraq that mistreated a few terrorist suspects being portrayed as indicative of the entire U.S. military and culture.

* We are tired of the non-stop apologies from the president on down to the Capitol Hill coat-room attendant.

* We are tired of the words ''atrocity,'' ''torture,'' and ''mutilate'' being misapplied to the abuses of Arab and Iraqi terrorist and jihadist insurgents. In most respects, college fraternity initiations strike a remarkable resemblance.

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* We are tired of an overstuffed Hefty-bag-with-a-hat, namely Michael Moore, and a whiny, hate-encrusted gremlin, surly Al Franken, receiving any serious thought as to what they have to say.

* We are tired of repeated references by Senators Ted Kennedy, Tom Harkin, and Frank Lautenberg to the country’s leaders as ''chicken hawks,'' thereby creating the standard that if you did not see action in the military, you are unfit to oversee it. Presidents Adams, Jefferson, and Franklin Roosevelt have shown otherwise, as has William Jefferson Clinton.


Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.


21 posted on 06/01/2004 10:08:24 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
What Americans Are Thinking About Iraq

Answer:....When is this going to get U.S. domestic 'gas' prices back well below $1.00 a gallon?

/sarcasm

22 posted on 06/01/2004 10:15:29 AM PDT by maestro
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To: MeekOneGOP

Bump!


23 posted on 06/01/2004 10:19:10 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: MeekOneGOP
* We are tired of the Monday morning quarterbacking that has become a cottage industry in relation to the aftermath of winning the war and establishing the peace. If it were that easy, France and Germany would have signed on from the beginning.

* We are tired of WMD’s and the search for them. One way or the other, they will turn up. Saddam had them, used them, and produced them. The question should be ''Where are they?” and not ''Did he have them?''

Ping Back!

24 posted on 06/01/2004 11:00:47 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: MeekOneGOP; Mudboy Slim; Landru; joanie-f

-"Carlos, better than anyone, would have understood that ordinary humanity is a mere canvas upon which the truly elect can write their Message: that in a media driven war blood must ink the presses -- and that the "militant's" first duty is to ensure that the presses never stop."


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Monday, May 31, 2004

Knock, knock
A Reuters article by Samia Nakhoul entitled Cool gunmen hunted down Christians begins with a question asked by Islamic gunmen who seized an expatriate housing complex and killed 22 residents:

"Are you Muslim or Christian? We don't want to kill Muslims. Show us where the Americans and Westerners live," Islamic militants told an Arab after a shooting rampage against Westerners in Saudi Arabia. The four gunmen, aged 18 to 25 and wearing military vests, grabbed Abu Hashem, an Iraqi with a United States passport, in front of his home in the Oasis compound in Khobar, but they let him go when he told them he was a Muslim. "Don't be afraid. We won't kill Muslims - even if you are an American," he quoted them as saying. ... "[The gunman] told me, 'Our jihad is not against Muslims, but against Americans and Westerners'. He asked me to show him which villas had Americans and Westerners."

The shooting "rampage against Westerners" included Indians, Filipinos and Sri Lankans. The Deccan Herald reported eight Indians killed, mostly janitors. The other dead included three Filipinos, identified by the Arab News as an accountant, driver and cook. The victims were neither particularly Western nor obviously Christian. The actual breakdown of deaths was:

Indians 8
Filipinos 3
Saudis 3
Sri Lankans 2
Americans 1
Britons 1
Italians 1
Swedes 1
South Africans 1
Egyptians 1
TOTAL 22

So it was a trick question. But someone who might have known the right answer was Carlos the Jackal, once a Marxist, now a convert to Islam and an international celebrity. A British reporter who lunched with his French lawyer, Isabelle Coutant-Peyre, describes the experience.

[Isabelle Coutant-Peyre] laughs throatily and lights another Cuban cigarillo. We are sitting in the Palais de Justice bar in Paris, where she swaps her lawyer's robe for a chic leather jacket. Gamine, with jetblack hair, kohl-rimmed eyes and a husky voice, she has an air of rebelliousness. Her mobile phone, which has already rung several times, trills again. She lowers her head and mutters into it: "I'll tell you later. Me too, me too." Snapping the phone shut, she announces: "That was Carlos."

There is no need to ask "Carlos who?". Ilich Ramirez Sanchez — alias "Carlos the Jackal" — was once the world's most wanted terrorist before anyone had ever heard of Osama bin Laden. He has been implicated in a number of international terrorist attacks and recently, in an interview on French television, claimed responsibility for killing more than 1500 people in the cause of Palestinian liberation (he is a convert to Islam). He was imprisoned in 1997 for the murder of two French policemen and an informant 22 years earlier. Today he is Madame Coutant-Peyre's husband — and the author of excruciating love poems penned from his cell. "I am jealous of the sun that tans you," he writes. "Of the shade that caresses you; Of your sheets that do not cover me. Of your legs not intertwined with mine."

He would known that the response was not 'I was a just a poor Muslim with a family. Spare me' or 'I am just a Filipino cook who prepares food' or even 'I am a Swedish European who is on your side'. The gunmen at the Oasis Housing complex, weighed each of these lives and decided to pull the trigger, not according to the human worth of their victims, but according to the column inches they would provide. The cooks and drivers were killed the better to hammer home the implacability of terror. Saudi staff were killed to convey the penalties for associating with the kuffar. The assorted Europeans to provide variety.

The American Muslim was pointedly spared so Reuters could emphasize the magnanimity of Jihad. Carlos, better than anyone, would have understood that ordinary humanity is a mere canvas upon which the truly elect can write their Message: that in a media driven war blood must ink the presses -- and that the "militant's" first duty is to ensure that the presses never stop. The correct answer was, 'I am one of you'; and the angel of darkness would have passed him by.


posted by wretchard | Permalink: 11:13 AM Zulu


25 posted on 06/01/2004 11:08:03 AM PDT by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)
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To: FBD
"I am jealous of the sun that tans you," he writes.
"Of the shade that caresses you;
Of your sheets that do not cover me.
Of your legs not intertwined with mine."

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...wonder if Ol' Carlos is gettin' some lovin' in prison?!

LOL...MUD

26 posted on 06/01/2004 11:29:28 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: FBD

27 posted on 06/01/2004 12:58:22 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Mudboy Slim

BWAHAHAHAHAHA...wonder if Ol' Carlos is gettin' some lovin' in prison?!




LOL! Ya think?


28 posted on 06/01/2004 1:08:17 PM PDT by onyx (Rummy's job is winning the war, not micro-managing some damn prison.)
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To: MeekOneGOP; WKB

Thanks for pinging your list Meek.
WKB posted a gem.


29 posted on 06/01/2004 1:09:06 PM PDT by onyx (Rummy's job is winning the war, not micro-managing some damn prison.)
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To: onyx

He sure seems to be missing that hairy-legged FRench chick...MUD


30 posted on 06/01/2004 1:17:14 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
TY!

Will read when less tired. I still haven't recovered from my hospital trip and having to go out in the Phoenix heat wears me out!

31 posted on 06/01/2004 1:17:51 PM PDT by Kate of Spice Island (sKerry to imagine the Kerry's swearing around Tony Blair or anyone else in power.)
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To: onyx; WKB
You're welcomed. And yes, he did ! :^D

32 posted on 06/01/2004 1:27:07 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: WKB
If your choice is to put politics ahead of country, and behave as if what has happened at Abu Ghraib prison is the defining moment of what the U.S. stands for, then I have no use for you, and I’m willing to say most of the country does not either. We are, I fear, at a junction in history that is as serious as it can get.

BUMP!

33 posted on 06/01/2004 1:32:33 PM PDT by spodefly (This post meets the minimum daily requirements for cynicism and irony.)
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To: onyx

This needs a late afternoon bump. Don't ya think?


34 posted on 06/01/2004 5:09:09 PM PDT by WKB (3!~ What we need is more "Christianity in politics" and less "Politics in Christianity")
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To: WKB
This needs a late afternoon bump. Don't ya think?

:)


35 posted on 06/01/2004 6:31:14 PM PDT by onyx (Rummy's job is winning the war, not micro-managing some damn prison.)
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Amen


36 posted on 06/02/2004 4:13:17 AM PDT by Brian Allen (United States of America's President and Armed-Forces Commander-In-Chief, George Walker Bush - 2008!)
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To: WKB; MeekOneGOP; Brian Allen; onyx
As far as offending anyone with the content of my tidy little philippic, that's tough.
But the truth often is. I promise not to do it again… for a while, anyway.
Well, I feel better. How about you?


I don't know about y'all, but reading this made me feel great!
I hope ole Vince writes another...very soon.

Thanks for the pings!

37 posted on 06/02/2004 8:24:15 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: dixiechick2000
bump ! :^D

38 posted on 06/02/2004 12:57:46 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: dixiechick2000

<< As far as offending anyone with the content of my tidy little philippic, that's tough. >>

Offend 'em?

F*** 'em! -- that's what I say!


39 posted on 06/02/2004 1:35:48 PM PDT by Brian Allen (United States of America's President and Armed-Forces Commander-In-Chief, George Walker Bush - 2008!)
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To: WKB

Oh, Joe Hadanuff (Sp?) will be objecting to this before long.


40 posted on 06/02/2004 1:55:26 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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