What is the problem with arming pilots? On the other hand if they keep our planes safe who cares how badly they stand out.
1 posted on
05/31/2004 4:51:52 PM PDT by
wagglebee
To: wagglebee
What is the problem with arming pilots? On the other hand if they keep our planes safe who cares how badly they stand out.That's what I think too. If there is a cop in my bank, is it more or less likely to be robbed? I say less.
2 posted on
05/31/2004 4:56:40 PM PDT by
b4its2late
(Every morning is the dawn of a new error...)
To: wagglebee
3 posted on
05/31/2004 4:57:35 PM PDT by
Drango
(A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
To: wagglebee
Sean Connery could teach them a thing or two.
After all, if one is on a flight, say, to Honolulu, who would wear a suit coat?
4 posted on
05/31/2004 5:00:02 PM PDT by
EGPWS
To: wagglebee
Obviously the answer is locking seat belts and a catheter for each passenger...
Sit them down, lock them up, and plug them in.
YOU ARE NOT FREE TO MOVE ABOUT THE CABIN
5 posted on
05/31/2004 5:01:49 PM PDT by
antaresequity
(This is not the "War on Terror"...we don't fight tactics.)
To: wagglebee
What is the problem with arming pilots?Great idea, but unfortunately, President Bush opposes the idea, so it ain't gonna' happen, regardless of what the law allows.
8 posted on
05/31/2004 5:08:07 PM PDT by
snopercod
(FReeper-freeper-bo-beeper, bananafanna-fo-feeper, fe-fi-fo-freeper, FReeper!)
To: wagglebee
Sounds like the way I dress when I fly. I hope nobody mistakes me an air marshal. Unless there are some ladies with a "thing" for air marshals.
10 posted on
05/31/2004 5:22:20 PM PDT by
clintonh8r
(Retrosexual Vietnam veteran against John Kerry, proud to be a "crook" and a "liar.")
To: wagglebee
This actually just answered a question for me. Last week while going through security at the airport a group of "business men and women" walked right past my family and up to the x-ray machine. Frankly I was mithed and wondering what was so special that these folks got to "cut" in line with their carry ons etc. Now I have my answer...they must have been air marshals. It all fits together now. Thanks for the post.
11 posted on
05/31/2004 5:23:59 PM PDT by
TXBubba
(aka TXBubbette)
To: wagglebee
How log can they keep the planes safe if they stand out? Unless there is one on each flight, terrorists will just wait until they are on a plane without a marshal.
Also, as was pointed out by another poster, the terrorists would know who to neutralize, and would simply make that the first thing they do. The, in addition to whatever makeshift weapons they managed to smuggle aboard, they would also have a gun.
The ideal situation is a mix of unformed officers and undercover marshals. The uniformed guys remind us that there are marshals, and the undercover guys have us wondering if there is one on our flight.
Now, the security thing is actually pretty easy to get past. If the marshals first board a commuter plane at a small airport, they won'\'t have to pass through screening at any of the larger airports with the flights that truly need protection.
14 posted on
05/31/2004 5:27:44 PM PDT by
sharktrager
(Insanity: To continue repeating the same act, each time expecting a different result.)
To: wagglebee
By standing out they definitely kêp the plane they are on safe. Terrorists are not going to take on extra trouble if they want to hijack a plane.
18 posted on
05/31/2004 5:31:11 PM PDT by
arthurus
(Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
To: wagglebee
Gee, back when this was a Free country, it wasn't a big deal to carry a gun on a plane.
No TSA, no metal detectors, no JBT's patrolling the airports, no strip searches, no secret "no fly" lists.
And no terrorist attacks.
23 posted on
05/31/2004 5:47:48 PM PDT by
Mulder
(Fight the future)
To: wagglebee
On the other hand if they keep our planes safe who cares how badly they stand out.I had the same conversation with a police officer about concealed carry... He told me that MO currently allows open carry of a handgun, and that should be enough. My response was that the fact that there are a few "good guys" carrying weapons among the unarmed population would be reason for the bad guys to worry, and possibly move on to easier hunting grounds. More importantly, what if there's a couple of bad guys who want to get my gun. Just as the Air Marshall said, if they spot you, you are at a disadvantage.
Mark
27 posted on
05/31/2004 6:04:42 PM PDT by
MarkL
(The meek shall inherit the earth... But usually in plots 6' x 3' x 6' deep...)
To: wagglebee
The "Secret Service Look" is as identifiable as any uniform. However, it is not illegal for a person to buy a dark suit, sunglasses, an ear-piece and stuff a salami under his suit jacket, and imitate the "Secret Service Look" quite successfully. IMHO, this is an inherent weakness in our Secret Service protection schemes. The Secret Service protection details should be uniformed, since they stand out like sore thumbs anyway. That way it could be made illegal to impersonate a Secret Service Agent by copying the uniform.
An additional benefit is that a certain Junior Senator would not be able to hire thugs, have them masquerade as Secret Service Agents, and have them beat people up on parade routes and the like. Just as a for-instance...
30 posted on
05/31/2004 6:28:43 PM PDT by
bondjamesbond
(Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
To: wagglebee
What is the problem with arming pilots?
It's the bleeding-heart liberal types who complain that a bullet could compomise the aircraft. Piffle. Boeing 747s have landed with no further loss of life after having a quarter of the side ripped out of the plane by bombs - a well-designed aircraft has no structural integrity problems with a couple of bullet holes in the side, as a worst-case scenario with one of the air marshals or even a pilot having to use a firearm.
We now know what the alternative is, after all.
38 posted on
06/01/2004 12:18:13 AM PDT by
KangarooJacqui
(Australian by birth, American by marriage, and conservative by God.)
To: wagglebee
45 posted on
06/01/2004 6:49:09 AM PDT by
Kenton
("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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