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To: Aquinasfan
We don't condemn their lifestyles, we condemn their unnatural acts. Sodomy is intrinsically evil. No one has a God-given right to engage in acts that are intrinsically evil.

To be honest I do not get a good feeling when I think about the things my cousin and his partner do in their bedroom at night but he, I and perhaps even you may not like what many straight couples do in their bedrooms at night.

But the bottom line is that as long as both people are willing participants of of legal age the activities are legal.

Although sodomy may not be your cup of tea, you must concede that the term covers a great deal of ground including many things that most married couples have at least tried. I for one am not willing to condemn all who have committed sodomy as evil and do not want legal authorities in my or anyone else's bedroom approving and disapproving of what is done.

77 posted on 06/02/2004 11:13:33 PM PDT by pete anderson
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To: pete anderson
A mother who runs a prostitution business out of her home is not only an unfit parent but also a criminal.

So put the woman in vegas where prostitution is legal. Now what's your complaint?

But the bottom line is that as long as both people are willing participants of of legal age the activities are legal.

Disagree. There's a case in germany (I think) where 1 man killed and ate another and both were willing participants. This behavior is wrong and illegal no matter if both agree or not.

Some activities are wrong and should be illegal no matter if both agree or not. (Abortion and homosexual behavior both come to mind here)

81 posted on 06/03/2004 8:27:36 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: pete anderson
A mother who runs a prostitution business out of her home is not only an unfit parent but also a criminal.

So put the woman in vegas where prostitution is legal. Now what's your complaint?

But the bottom line is that as long as both people are willing participants of of legal age the activities are legal.

Disagree. There's a case in germany (I think) where 1 man killed and ate another and both were willing participants. This behavior is wrong and illegal no matter if both agree or not.

Some activities are wrong and should be illegal no matter if both agree or not. (Abortion and homosexual behavior both come to mind here)

82 posted on 06/03/2004 8:28:07 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: pete anderson
But the bottom line is that as long as both people are willing participants of of legal age the activities are legal.

The bottom line is that sodomy is intrinsically evil and should be criminalized. The nature of the penalty is a matter for debate.

Although sodomy may not be your cup of tea, you must concede that the term covers a great deal of ground including many things that most married couples have at least tried. I for one am not willing to condemn all who have committed sodomy as evil

Either sodomy is unnatural, disordered and intrinsically evil or it's not. Whether particular sodomites are responsible for sin is a different matter, depending on their knowledge of the gravity of the evil. However, ignorance of the nature of the evil is hard to imagine. Three abominations in particular brought down divine wrath in the Old Testament, sodomy, infanticide and worship of a satanic diety.

...and do not want legal authorities in my or anyone else's bedroom approving and disapproving of what is done.

Separate issue. I don't either, because no one, including the police, should be peaking in people's windows. This would represent voyeurism. The ends do not justify the means.

What is clear and unarguable is that homosexual "couples" should never be allowed to adopt children. Such an arrangement is utterly unnatural and wholly destructive to children.

90 posted on 06/04/2004 5:52:20 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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