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Well..well...The house that agenda built appears to be of cards.

More proof here ---> The Sad life of Brian Reimer

1 posted on 05/31/2004 12:39:29 PM PDT by softengine
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To: softengine
The mother says she was never a surrogate and that she, the father - once a close friend who worked for her - and his live-in lover intended to raise the child as a parental trio.

"I just hadn't met the right guy yet," said Courtney St. Clement, 52, who had never been identified in the press or spoken out about her experiences.

"They held out that they had a lot of money, and at the time, I felt like I was marrying a doctor. They said, 'We're a family.' We were supposed to all live together, but we didn't get that far."

It won't be long until a court deems a "trio" a valid marriage.

2 posted on 05/31/2004 12:44:38 PM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: softengine
It also says he repeatedly kisses and touches classmates inappropriately and once ran around naked.

Yeah, and it's perfectly healthy for children to be raised by gays. Note to self: If 2 gay men want to have a child with me, just say no.

3 posted on 05/31/2004 12:47:39 PM PDT by conservative cat
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To: softengine

How can this be? Aren't we told that gays are just as likely, if not more likely, to stay together?


6 posted on 05/31/2004 1:04:08 PM PDT by raybbr (My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
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To: softengine
Wow, who'd a thunk that raising a kid in an openly gay lifestyle, subject to various forms of behavior and mannerisms not widely accepted by the public could damage a little boy who has to live in a school environment where he's most likely considered a weirdo by his peers?

It's time we started disbarring judges who choose their own personal agenda over their judicial obligations.

8 posted on 05/31/2004 1:25:28 PM PDT by TheLurkerX ("PELOSI, PUT DOWN THE LIGHTER, AND BACK AWAY FROM THE CRACK PIPE.")
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To: softengine

Well, I guess it is good that the fairies raise their own fresh meet instead of preying on the sons of normal people. What about the young man, you say? His fate was sealed by the ultra-left wing bureaucrat who approved the arrangement in the first place. If a child lives all his life with two vegetarians, why is any one surprised by the fact that he is a vegetarian as an adult? Why would being raised by faggots have a different outcome?


11 posted on 05/31/2004 1:37:05 PM PDT by Tacis (,)
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To: softengine

What chance did this poor kid have, The biologic child of a fag and a woman stupid enough to breed with him to produce a child she thought she and two queers would raise.She is obviously a total idiot herself how can she help this child?

This child has probably been subjected to observing numerous sick and perverted acts more than likely forced to engage in some himself.

The child doesnt need to be returned to a mother who is hardly a sane thinkling person , The child needs to be totally removed from this pack of sicko's.


15 posted on 05/31/2004 1:43:40 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: softengine

Here is the interesting thing. The homosexuals would make you believe this is being treated differently. Actually the case is being treated as a single man and woman who had a child out of wedlock.

This "man's" sex partner must not have guardianship beyond a power of attorney granted by the father.

The fact tha this woman has visitation and this woman is petitioning for custody means the homosexual's sex partner has nothing for legal standing in the court.

I hope she wins. She is on the right track for geting the child examined. With proper expert testimony she should be able to not only show detrimental environment for this child but be able to have suopervised visitation. At the very least a time with zero visitation from the homosexual in order to reaclimate the child to normal social conduct outside of the homosexual lifestyle.


17 posted on 05/31/2004 1:49:50 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: softengine

Weren't we told by the liberal media that it's better to allow gays to adopt than for unwanted children to languish unloved in Oliver-Twist-like orphan asylums.

Oh wait, there are no orphan asylums.

There are a lot of gay Fagins, but just not enough unwanted orphans to go around.


20 posted on 05/31/2004 1:57:41 PM PDT by Alouette (Dear Dad & Uncle Ira & all USA vets--Thank you for my Freedom.)
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To: softengine
It it with some considerable regret that I read the article you have posted. It seemed that it was just a few months ago that I exchanged views with Freepers on this kind of thing. I went back to my comments and find that it was Sept 14th 2003.

The title was "Gay Dads Want Their Son To Grow Up Straight". It was from the Sun-Herald, Sydney,Australia. Poster. Byron the Aussie. I ventured the view, that the odds of both these people eventually molesting their "son," was quite high. I then stated ".....please God I am totally wrong" . I had support from Freepers John O and Siamese Princess, after someone hit back at me and asked for statistics.

I also avered that if this happens, the two Australian "fathers" should do hard time. In this particular American case, one could say, they are innocent until proved guilty?. Wicked swine, says I. Sadly the odds are great as to something sadly wrong here.

43 posted on 05/31/2004 4:31:22 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: little jeremiah

ping!


51 posted on 06/01/2004 5:34:02 PM PDT by tuesday afternoon (Honour thy father and thy mother, that thy days may be long upon the land)
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping - Homosexual Parents - what exactly does this mean? It means two dysfunctional people selfishly pretending to be a "family" so they can twist a poor child's psyche.

(Or in this case, it looks like THREE weirdos!)

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.

PS - TAKE BACK THE RAINBOW!


52 posted on 06/01/2004 6:20:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah ("Gay Marriage" - a Weapon of Mass. Destruction!)
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To: All

WAR OVER BOY RAISED BY DEGENERATE DEVIATE SODOMISTS

May 30, 2004 -- An ugly tug of war is raging over the fate of a 6-year-old boy being raised by a gay couple who won custody of the child in a landmark decision in 2000.

Gays hailed the ruling as a major victory for same-sex couples, but the boy has since become a troubled kid who punches his teachers and repeatedly says he wants to kill himself, according to an expert's report requested by his school.

The report has spurred the mother to fight for increased access to her son, who has lived with the two men since the ruling - the first time a New York court awarded custody to a gay couple over a woman they claimed to be a surrogate.

The mother says she was never a surrogate and that she, the father - once a close friend who worked for her - and his live-in lover intended to raise the child as a parental trio.

"I just hadn't met the right guy yet," said Courtney St. Clement, 52, who had never been identified in the press or spoken out about her experiences.

"They held out that they had a lot of money, and at the time, I felt like I was marrying a doctor. They said, 'We're a family.' We were supposed to all live together, but we didn't get that far."

St. Clement, who runs her own marketing and consulting firm and lives on the Upper West Side, had no inkling of how badly things would go for her son, whose name is being withheld by The Post.

He punches and kicks his teachers, hits and bites himself, curses and says he wants to kill himself as often as twice a month, according to the new report, completed in January by NYU's Child Study Center.

It also says he repeatedly kisses and touches classmates inappropriately and once ran around naked.

"[He] is exhibiting significant behavioral problems at school," said the report, which was based on a personal evaluation of the boy by two experts, along with interviews with his teachers and both parents and their spouses.

It blames his unruliness in part on the "hostility" between his parents.

"His mother and father have always lived apart and have had remarkably significant disputes regarding custody and visitation from very early on," said the report, which recommended that the boy be appointed a law guardian.

He was previously kicked out of PS 116 as a kindergartner in 2002 after just two weeks there and placed in a private special-needs school on the Upper East Side.

St. Clement says the family arrangement broke down after the father, part-time substitute teacher Gerald Casale, 47, and his partner, a trusts and estates lawyer, Ernest Londa, 46, stopped her from seeing the 6-month-old infant in April 1998. She then sued for custody.

The partners claimed they struck a deal with St. Clement in which she agreed to carry Casale's child to term, then step back and allow them to be sole parents.

"I think Ms. Clement has a certain bent," said Phyllis Levitas, Casale's lawyer.

"My client and I have given this some very careful consideration, and we believe that it's not in the child's best interest to discuss this case with the media."

Last December, St. Clement challenged the custody ruling - made by Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Marylin Diamond - in light of the boy's disturbing behavior at school, and the boy's pediatrician requested a follow-up evaluation by a court-appointed specialist.

In March, an appeals court ruled that the new judge in the case, Supreme Court Justice Joan Lobis, reconsider the custody question.

But Lobis refused to take up the custody issue, denied the evaluation request and rejected the recommendation for a child guardian, spurring a motion in which the mother slammed Lobis for "abdicating her role as judge."

Lobis' office did not respond to The Post's request for comment.

The mother is part of the Alliance for Judicial Justice, a group of 200 litigants who suspect their cases were tainted by judges' personal interests, led by activist Anthony DeRosa.


55 posted on 06/02/2004 4:15:52 AM PDT by Brian Allen (United States of America's President and Armed-Forces Commander-In-Chief, George Walker Bush - 2008!)
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To: softengine
"I think Ms. Clement has a certain bent," said Phyllis Levitas, Casale's lawyer.

Um, you've got that precisely bass-ackward, Ms. Levitas.

It's the two 'gay daddies' who are bent.

In liberal-world, up is down, right is wrong, and evil is good.

64 posted on 06/02/2004 5:46:10 AM PDT by shhrubbery!
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To: softengine

bump - what a sad, sick and demonic world we live in. Poor boy.


69 posted on 06/02/2004 7:51:40 AM PDT by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: softengine

Homosexual marriage will fix all this. /NOT


80 posted on 06/03/2004 8:25:05 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: softengine

The kid will experience significant problems all his life, and if he doesn't kill himself as he's threatening, will probably end up on SSI.


84 posted on 06/03/2004 8:34:47 AM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: softengine

This is a very depressing story.


Homosexuality: Homosexuality is deviant sexual behavior and a mental illness.

Homosexuals: 1) subject their body parts to uses nature did not intend, such activities often presenting immediate risk to the participants; 2) are prone to greater suicide, depression and other mental disorders and deficiencies than the heterosexual population at large; 3) are prone to far greater sexually transmitted diseases, including AIDS, than the (normal) heterosexual population; 4) molest young people (pedophilia) at a far greater rate than heterosexuals; 5) engage in degrading sexual promiscuity, oftentimes engaging in risky sex with many partners during the same event; 6) are engaged in aggressive and widespread efforts to indoctrinate our children by introducing the homosexual lifestyle using public schools as the primary indoctrination “vehicle” and likewise, through the movie/music/TV industry, with the dual goals of gaining school-age acceptance of homosexuality and encouraging sexual activity among children, especially same-sex experimentation; 7) view most everything through a mindset heavily biased in favor of the homosexual lifestyle and culture, which renders them mostly useless when asked to opine on matters that normal heterosexuals better resolve.

The mental deficiencies described herein applying to homosexuals should not be confused with the mental deficiencies associated with the garden-variety left wing democrat (socialist/marxist/feminist/environmental/union boss wackos,) which have their own distinct set of mental disorders.

This doesn't even touch on what the Bible has to say about homosexuality.


102 posted on 08/01/2004 4:55:57 AM PDT by Imagine
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