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So, what is a 'neocon'?
The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | Saturday, May 29, 2004 | Bill Steigerwald

Posted on 05/30/2004 11:02:40 AM PDT by Willie Green

What's the difference between "conservative" and "neoconservative"? Who are the "neocons," anyway? And were they, as some charge, an unduly influential cabal of intellectuals who talked President Bush into going to war in Iraq after 9/11 as part of their long-planned crusade to plant democracy in the Middle East?

To seek enlightenment on things neoconservative, I rang up four of the biggest names in the punditry business and asked them the same questions. Rich Lowry is editor of National Review. Paul Weyrich is chairman and CEO of the Free Congress Foundation. Paul Gigot is editor of The Wall Street Journal's editorial page. And George Will is the famous syndicated columnist:

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: neocons; pseudoconservatives; rinos
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To: Willie Green

NeoCon: A word used by a socialist seeking to divide the Conservative Movement.


21 posted on 05/30/2004 11:32:05 AM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: Abcdefg

Agreed. I don't think you'd find any poster on FR who would vote for Kerry ...ever. But the subject was neo-cons.


22 posted on 05/30/2004 11:32:12 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: Willie Green

"It's called the Conservative Movement"

23 posted on 05/30/2004 11:33:29 AM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: BunnySlippers
I don't think you'd find any poster on FR who would vote for Kerry ...ever

I hate to tell you, I have ran across a few.

And some who won't vote for Bush, which is the same as a vote for Kerry.
24 posted on 05/30/2004 11:34:32 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium
Can some one explain what they were talking about?

Hypersensitive neocons can't tolerate criticism of their political views and generally react by smearing their opponents with the anti-semitic "race card". It's a liberal character trait they imported to the GOP when they migrated from the 'Rats.

25 posted on 05/30/2004 11:36:32 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: All

If you're interested in more info on this subject, check here:


26 posted on 05/30/2004 11:37:45 AM PDT by Veracious Poet (Cash cows are sacred in America...GOT MILKED???)
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To: freedumb2003

I figure a retrocon would be a Goldwater Republican, which is pretty much what I am anyway! Go trademark it, haha!


27 posted on 05/30/2004 11:40:40 AM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Willie Green

Ping for later


28 posted on 05/30/2004 11:43:20 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Willie Green

"Neo-con" is often used by Europeans and like-minded Americans who want to bring back national socialism. The word is used to falsely describe US Republicans, Protestants and Jews. It is a projection and is used falsely in that those who use it are socialists who wouldn't dare give up the social programs they screamed for, including the VAWA, the Child Support Act and other feminazi cash cows for supporting single motherhood and the destruction of the family. The ancestors of most who use the word came to America roughly 100 years ago, in huge, starving hordes.


29 posted on 05/30/2004 11:45:18 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: Delphinium
Hopefully, all the Bush-haters have defected to LP where they belong. But for the purposes of this issue I think we need to be literal ... if you are not voting for Bush, you are not voting for Kerry.

The anti-Bush people I have seen on FR are not liberals ... they are think Bush is not conservative enough.

At the same time I urge anyone who is not voting for Bush to reconsider. We've all seen the results of Ross Perot and Ralph Nader. The result is a win for the ideological opposite.

Go Bush Go!

30 posted on 05/30/2004 11:46:30 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: Veracious Poet

It also would be nice if people would read the article which is quite interesting. Most are not reading it apparently.


31 posted on 05/30/2004 11:48:20 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: Willie Green
That still doesn't completely explain it to me.

I have been know to call people anti-Semitic when they blame the war and everything else on the Jews.

Does this make me who has never been a liberal a neocon?
32 posted on 05/30/2004 11:52:58 AM PDT by Delphinium
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To: Willie Green

"Hypersensitive neocons can't tolerate criticism of their political views and generally react by smearing their opponents with the anti-semitic "race card". It's a liberal character trait they imported to the GOP when they migrated from the 'Rats."

The notion that Jews are overly sensitive to anti-Semitism was also an important cornerstone of the Goebbels propaganda campaign.

The reality is that rabid Jew-haters like Buchanan have attempted to smear Jews for all the perceived faults in the Bush Administration, despite the fact that the President has not appointed one Jew to his cabinet.

There is nothing "conservative" about Buchanan. He is, like so many other cheap populists in the past, quite simply, a Nazi in conservative clothes.

America would have been a far better place had his ancestors been refused entry at Ellis Island.


33 posted on 05/30/2004 11:53:27 AM PDT by Joel C
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To: Delphinium

The local anti semite at the neighborhood watering hole thinks neo-cons are nothing more than Jewish conservatives and everything they do is for the benefit of Israel. (This guy thinks that Jews control or want to control....everything)


34 posted on 05/30/2004 11:54:36 AM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers
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To: Willie Green

As far as I can tell, it's President Ronald Reagan and his supporters or a conservative Jew.


35 posted on 05/30/2004 11:55:54 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Abcdefg
NeoCons: those who aspire to achieve socialism via the Republican party?

You nailed it!

36 posted on 05/30/2004 11:56:38 AM PDT by nonliberal (Bush 2004: He is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.)
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To: Willie Green
What's the difference between "conservative" and "neoconservative"? Who are the "neocons," anyway?

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Or is it a needle?

Who cares? All anyone needs to do is to read the answers in this column to see how pointless the question really is, and will continue to be.

The best answer may depend upon the outcome of our mission in Iraq. If things don't go well, "neocons" are gonna be an empty set, just another label to add to our long and growing last of political perjoratives.

Wherever we might want to go, labels won't help us get there.

37 posted on 05/30/2004 11:58:33 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sí, estamos libres sonreír otra vez - ahora y siempre.)
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To: Delphinium

"I read the article pretty fast, but can't figure out the Anti-Semitic part?"

That's because they're closet anti-Jewish writers who simply rant and rave against "Zionism," "dispensationalism" and the like. But they hate other Republicans and Protestants just as much. The word has now become very popular with left leaning Europeans of the same black heart. It's no surprise, with Old Europe rising and all. I've personally seen People Magazine on some of their coffee tables, BTW.

My point here is in favor of unity, folks. Get with the program! Look at the demographics--your numbers. Help us get our President re-elected! Buchanan and others like him have no chance of being elected. And if any of those kooks had a chance of being elected, the USA would start looking like the History of the Balkans!


38 posted on 05/30/2004 11:59:16 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: Willie Green
National Review hashed this out quite extensively during
the first gulf war. neocons are traditional Democrats
that found themselves voting republican because their
former party didn't oppose communism fiercely enough
during the cold war. FDR, they hypothesized, would be
a neoconservative republican if he was alive today. (THAT
one certainly set dumbocrat teeth gnashing.) I think
that neoconservatives are generally considered to be
more expansionist regarding their foreign policy.

I have heard their counterparts in the party referred to
as paleoconservatives.
39 posted on 05/30/2004 12:04:49 PM PDT by smonk
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To: Willie Green

I am a donkey Con. thats a conservative that throws barrels at italian plumbers.

ps if you dont get this joke you didnt play enough arcade games during the 80s!


40 posted on 05/30/2004 12:09:05 PM PDT by captaindude2 (Soon to be banned again!)
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