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Posted on 05/30/2004 12:05:02 AM PDT by JustPiper

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To: null and void

You are correct on the Mengele being a doc.

I will stick with Grandpa's theory, he always said that he would not go to a doctor, as he knew a man who went to a doctor "one time" and he died.

Grandpa Ira, an old Cherokee Indian, that lived with us for a few years.......long ago.

yee gads, by the above statement, I am now the same "an old Cherokee Indian",,now how did that happen?


1,661 posted on 06/02/2004 9:27:36 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)
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To: null and void

Cool I couldn't find a follow up for them.


1,662 posted on 06/02/2004 9:27:58 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

The sequel to the article you posted is also at Bush Country and has some explanations and justifications about recent events, including the world's ships being put out to sea:

http://www.bushcountry.org/news/jun_news_pages/g_060104_withheld_june_2004.htm

June 2004...The Beginning Of The End?

Bush Country promised our readers several weeks ago we would post the last email from an individual who has stumbled across "possible" disturbing events. Like we mentioned on the previous email from him in May, we are cautioning readers who are afraid of end time events in reading this post. Also, we do not consider this information to be factual but are posting it for two reasons:

It fits in with Bible Prophecy. Christ said how the end times will unfold numerous times in the Bible. Christ said that not even He knows what day He will return to claim His children and that only God knows. However, Christ also told us to be watchful for these events knowing if we begin to see them taking place, to look up as our redemption is drawing near (Luke 21:28) Here are a few other verses telling what events will usher in the end times, there are many, many more: Luke 21:11, Luke 21:25-28, Revelation 6:12-17

If, and we do say "if" these events do unfold, it would provide one of the greatest opportunities for evangelism in our lifetime and we cannot pass this up and hope our readers understand. Bush Country has tens of thousands of visitors, many who are not saved and we would be amiss if we did not lay out what has been forwarded to us because of its possible significance in leading the unsaved to Christ.
At any rate, below is the 3rd email we received from the "Unknown" reader who continues to remain anonymous. Most of this information comes directly from the thread he has been following, but there is also information about other coincidental events happening IE: The unprecedented actions that the worlds superpowers navy's will be doing in June. Here is the email:

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Several weeks ago, I sent you the article entitled "Is The End Of The World As We Know It Right Around The Corner?" and informed you that I would let you know when this guy named Aussie Bloke makes his last post. Well, it finally happened.

After 2 Weeks of visiting his family/saying goodbye, Aussie Bloke came back and true to his word, posted on the 29th of May who he is. His comments are noted below:

Aussie Bloke
5/29/2004
5:19 am EDT Re: Aussie Bloke Vol.#3

Ok...here it is. I AM DR GARTREL. Happy now? As for what I know....I've already told you. You want bloody details....you have them already. You want to know what will happen?...read the above posts. You don't believe me?...YOUR problem! YOU have brains...USE THEM....as I've encouraged you all to do all along!!! READ THE BLOODY SIGNS>>>>>>>but no...some remain flaming BLIND!!!! because they WANT TO. Wont change a thing. I am screwed now...cats out of the bag now...I am who I am....and who gives a ____. IM BLOODY ANGRY!!!!! DO you people have ANY BLOODY IDEA at ALL what it has been like for myself and others who have known about this for BLOODY TWO DECADES!!!!!!!! But no...WELL BUGGER IT ALL!!!!!! For those who have patiently waited for me I am truly sorry for not doing the expected. I told you all weeks ago exactly where and when...you have the details already. The reason? THINK about it!!! IF I had told you all back then that the information WAS in fact THE information you all wanted....the site would have shut down. I had to do it this way...the information has been out for over two weeks now...and the ptb can now do bugger all about it. I have been around them long enough to know how they think and what they would do...now they can do nothing. The times locations and eta of the cloud and objects has already been posted. NOW all you have to do is hope to hell that someone out there copied it. NOW...GET THE WORD OUT!!!! THIS IS LEGIT. FAREWELL TO ALL. SEE YOU IN ETERNITY.

Someone did some research on Aussie Bloke and found out that he is indeed who he say's he is, which makes the entire thread that I had sent you several weeks ago even more disturbing. Here is the info that has been pulled about him:

http://www.imo.net/bib/metshw0.html
Bibliographic Meteor Database - Meteor Showers
GARTRELL G., ELFORD W.G. (1975):
SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE METEOR STREAM DETERMINATION
Austral. J. Phys. 28, 591-620

http://www.darksky.org/infoshts/is044.html
Olsson-Steel, D.I. & Elford, W.G., The Use of Radars in the Detection of In falling Space Debris International Dark-Sky Association -- Information Sheet 44 Astronomical Society of the Pacific Conference Series, Vol. 17 08/98

http://www.terrapub.co.jp/journals/EPS/abstract/5107_08/51070691.html
Meteor observations with an MF radar
Masaki Tsutsumi1, David Holdsworth2, Takuji Nakamura3, and Iain Reid4
1National Institute of Polar Research, Tokyo, Japan
2Atmospheric Radar Systems, Adelaide, Australia
3Radio Atmospheric Science Center, Kyoto University, Uji, Kyoto, Japan
4University of Adelaide, Adelaide, Australia
(Received August 19, 1998; Revised June 6, 1999; Accepted June 10, 1999)
Earth Planets Space, Vol. 51 (Nos. 7, 8), pp. 691-689, 1999 in the bibliography of the pdf: Steel, D. I. and W. G. Elford, The height distribution of radio meteors: comparison of observations at different frequencies on the basis of standard echo theory, J. Atmos. Terr. Phys., 53, 409–417, 1991.

I am going to leave your readers (if you decide to post this) with several links, and information that I have been able to pull about this "end of the world" scenario. It is not just Aussie Bloke who is talking about these inbound comets, there are also some very disturbing signs happening which leads one to believe that either there are some incredible coincidences going on, or Aussie Bloke is right, and we will have "hell on earth" in June.

By the way, here are the days and the events which are supposed to happen on them:

June 8-9 Dust Cloud begins to reach the Earth and darkening of the skies.
June 18-20 1st impact
June 24-25 2nd impact
June 27-28 3rd impact of the "anomaly"
Now for the coincidences. The first is stock market site article http://www.urbansurvival.com/week.htm that talks about something I had posted on my last email to you about an intercepted transmission from Ham operators about something that is supposed to hit earth in June. It was called: Is "Snowball" A Coincidence?

Here is an interesting article I pulled just a few days ago. These fireballs have increased significantly over the last several weeks and are happening EVERYWHERE.

Fireball Near Grover´s Mill, N.J.

Startled New Jersey residents tied-up the phone lines late this evening calling authorities to report a large orange fireball that passed over the town and apparently hit the ground several miles west of Grover´s MIll. No reports of fires or injuries from the area have been made, but locals expressed concern that the unknown phenomena had made a rumbling noise when it passed over that was strong enough to rattle windows and frighten pets.

"I thought a jet was coming down right in the street," said Betty Ocker, a housewife in Grover´s Mill, "it was loud, and I mean really loud."

Police have asked residents to clear up the telephone lines and use them only for emergency purposes until things get worked out, said a town spokesperson. Apparently the local districts received so many calls after the meteor passed overhead that the lines jammed and they have been unable to handle normal calls for police assistance.

Local fire teams were dispatched to the woods west of town to make sure that no fires were started by the space rock, but none of them have reported finding anything as yet.

Here was a comment from someone on the same "Aussie Bloke" thread making comments about what was being discussed (too many coincidences going on to not believe that something is coming from the heavens and will reach us soon)

I am an historian from the border region of Austria with some background in the diplomatic corps, 65 years old and now semi-retired.

I have heard about the ´Aussie Bloke´ postings from a young relative of my family and what I have read has struck a chord in me. In short, there are things happening at a diplomatic level in Europe that point to a major catastrophe within weeks, if not days.

RE: Emergency planning, naval and military mobilization

Yes, this is indeed something I wanted to highlight, although I am aware that some aspects of the naval mobilization are now in the public news domain.

What you are seeing here is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of a longer and finely coordinated military posture that is being coordinated in tandem with confidential inter-governmental briefings taking place under the auspices of Swiss officials in Geneva.

Signs abound. There is a certain sub-strata of the civil service in London that, together with senior emergency planning officers, has been evacuated from its headquarters in the British capital. This took place very recently.

Many US military bases outside of home territory that were falling into disuse have been frantically refurbished and restocked over the last 18 months, and one must ask oneself why this is happening. The standard reason given for these unprecedented upgrades is ´preparedness´ in the
so-called war on terrorism.

The United States military infrastructure is actually quite widely dispersed; a catastrophe affecting the land mass of North America alone would therefore not imperil the operational integrity of the US High Command. The same principle applies to American financial and economic instruments deployed ´in expatriate´: instruments largely inured against an anticipated collapse of the domestic banking and credit markets.

I found this gentleman's writings on projected meteor impacts rather interesting, as his predicted dates of arrival dovetail rather neatly with the current and future logistics pertaining to premium shipping lines, the navies of several large nations, military contingents and the movements of elite personnel.

The nation most advanced in this field of planning is Switzerland, where many in senior positions, especially in the security and medical professions, have been put on Stufe 2 since the beginning of April 2004. Even during the Cold War, most memorably the Cuban Crisis, the levels raised were hardly ever above Stufe 3.

I believe the levels in both Austria and Germany are lower. In the case of the latter, this is on no account due to ignorance or poor planning resources, but rather because of their concerns with secrecy and forcing a run on resources. People in Germany - and I live on the border, so I know - are becoming aware that something strange is transpiring within the emergency planning regime, if only because there has been extensive re-testing of the outdated airborne attack warning sirens.

I still keep in touch with many friends and colleagues who work for the diplomatic corps in Germany, Austria, Switzerland and the United Kingdom, many of whom are currently spending an inordinate amount of their residual time locked in emergency preparedness that goes way beyond any threat that can be reasonably ascribed to terrorism.

Here is one that talks about some very strange things that the federal reserve is doing which leads one to think they know something is about to happen. I don't know what the heck they are talking about, but it sounds like something quite disturbing is coming: http://www.safehaven.com/article-1597.htm

"Let me just say from the outset that the Federal Reserve has confirmed our Stock Market Crash forecast by raising the Money Supply (M-3) by crisis proportions, up another 46.8 billion this past week. What awful calamity do they see? Something is up. This is unprecedented, unheard-of pre-catastrophe M-3 expansion. M-3 is up an amount that we´ve never seen before without a crisis - $155 billion over the past 4 weeks, a $2.0 trillion annualized pace, a 22.2 percent annualized rate of growth!!! There must be a crisis of historic proportions coming, and the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States is making sure that there is enough liquidity in place to protect our nation´s fragile financial system. The amazing thing is, the Fed´s actions mean they know what is about to happen. They are aware of a terrible, horrific imminent event. What could it be?

One can draw no other conclusion except that the Fed is acting irresponsibly in its managing the money supply, in fulfilling its duty to "maintain a stable currency." I reject the notion that the Fed is acting irresponsibly. No, something is up, bigger than we have ever seen in the history of the United States. Let me ramble. Perhaps they simply see the ominous technical landscape we have been warning about in recent issues, and are attempting to pull out all the stops to avert the predicted crash. The recent rally in just about everything is similar to 2003´s market behavior when the Fed pumped massive amounts of liquidity into the system during the first half of the year. This time seems different. The amount of liquidity is too large. The Fed is deflating the value of the monetary base by a fifth! Why are they willing to do this? Wisdom says something bad is up - big time."

Yet another one which talks about the UK preparing for evacuations: http://www.globalcontinuity.com/article/articleview/10265/1/30/

Lastly, did you know that just about every major countries navy's will be at sea in June? Apparently, deep water is much more safe than docking in shallow water if strong waves are blown inland. Here are some comments from one of the forums along with some links for proof of what is going on.

Just why is it that nearly our entire naval fleet, have unprecedented orders to leave for the Oceans? AND, they aren't alone. At least parts of Iran, Britain, Australia, China, France, India, Indonesia, Japan, South Korea, Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Vietnam are going too. Makes me want to find out where the British Navy is holing up these days. And what of the Russians? hmmm.... Does anyone ever stay home and protect their own borders anymore? Isn't that what they are supposed to be doing? Something is very, very fishy here!"

Let's go through a list of which countries are putting navies to sea for the month of June. Take the U.S. naval group's departure from San Diego. What's the official story of the 6,000+ sailors leaving Monday?

(Norfolk) a local television station in Norfolk reports that a total of seven carrier strike groups are putting to sea in June - which if I'm not mistaken is an unprecedented move: "While the Navy won't say where the seven carrier groups are going, the carriers not already deployed are expected to be gone for only one to two months." Story (RealPlayer needed) at http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=1902088&nav=23iiNU2h (England) The British are also putting an unusual number of ships to sea during June. http://www.navynews.co.uk/articles/2004/0405/0004052601.asp Meantime, Channel 13 in Hampton Roads, VA reports in part that:

"Called "Exercise Blinding Storm" by the United States and "Exercise Rapid Alliance" by the U.K., the training will involve about 30,000 troops from seven nations in exercises off and on the coast of North Carolina. Dutch marines and French soldiers will take part, as well as a Peruvian submarine and contingents from Germany and Canada. The flotilla is expected to set sail Tuesday, with the two-week amphibious exercise scheduled to begin June 10. The British landing platform dock ship Albion has already arrived. It carried four Challenger II battle tanks — the British equivalent of the U.S. M1-A1 Abrams tank. The tanks will be sent ashore aboard the ship's new landing craft during the exercise. The biggest British ship — the aircraft carrier Invincible — also has docked with a crew of 1,050. " http://www.wvec.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D82SAKN80.html

Also look at this huge list of other recent deployments...

Carrier Group Leaves On Deployment
Ships Are Not Scheduled To Support Operations In Iraq
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/3339032/detail.html

HUGE NAVAL STRIKE GROUP IS DEPLOYED! Western Pacific
(1) Aircraft carrier Stennis (CSG)
(2) Guided-missile cruiser USS Lake Champlain (CG 57)
(3) Burke-class destroyer USS Howard (DDG 83)
(4) Guided-missile frigate USS Ford (FFG 54)
(5) Fast-attack submarine USS Salt Lake City (SSN 716)
(6) Replenishment ship USNS Rainier (T-AOE 7) Also
(7) amphibious assault ship Belleau Wood
(8) amphibious transport dock ship Denver
(9) amphibious transport dock ships Comstock
(10-11) Burke-class guided missile destroyers Preble and Hopper -- will depart next month.
(12) USS Tucson Departs on Western Pacific Deployment
(13) Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Russell

Also: USS McCampbell (DDG 85) departed May 5 for its first
deployment. The ship and its crew are headed to Southeast Asia in support of a Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) cruise. McCampbell will be conducting joint naval exercises with the countries of Singapore, Thailand, Brunei, Malaysia and the Philippines.

Also: Twenty Royal Navy ships, led by HMS Invincible, are heading
off to take part in the exercise called Rapid Alliance, which is taking place off the eastern seaboard of the United States.

Article: Marines Take off for Naval Exercise with U.S.

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2918574

Mediterranean Sea Surface Strike Group deployment:
(14) Guided-missile destroyer USS Ramage (DDG 61)
(15) Guided-missile destroyer USS Ross (DDG 71),
(16) Guided-missile frigate USS Elrod (FFG 55)

USS John C. Stennis Strike Group Deploys for Pacific Operations:
Navy-Marine strike group leaves on 6-month deployment:
More than 5,000 sailors and Marines with the Belleau Wood
Expeditionary Strike Group will leave San Diego Thursday for
a six-month deployment in support of the war on terrorism
The amphibious assault ship Belleau Wood and the amphibious
transport dock ships Denver and Comstock will depart from 32nd
Street Naval Station beginning at 8:30 a.m. Thursday. "It is the
first time an expeditionary strike group will be commanded by a Marine general, according to the Navy.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/

2004/05/27/military/20_54_265_26_04.txt

"The Army begins a major staging operation today at the port to ship equipment to southwest Asia." Article: Army to ship vehicles overseas via Olympia:
http://www.theolympian.com/home/news/20040520/topstories/54346.shtml

Official explanation: Strike Group Deploys Early To Help Quell
Insurgency "The plan was developed to train naval forces for quick response to crises and in support of national interests."
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/militaryconnection/3351632/detail.html

Ford heads to sea Frigate's crew departs for 4 months
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/04/05/27/loc_ford001.cfm

USS Tucson Departs on Western Pacific Deployment
http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=13418

Surface Strike Group Ships Deploy From Norfolk
http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=13096

"coastal patrol ships Typhoon and Sirocco prepared to leave port at the Little Creek Naval Amphibious Base Friday to relieve two sister ships" http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=69752&ran=237692

ROTA, Spain (NNS) -- USNS Patuxent (T-AO 201) accompanied patrol
boats USS Typhoon (PC 5) and USS Sirocco (PC 6) on their journey across the Atlantic Ocean to Naval Station Rota, Spain, and arrived in port with the two PCs May 12.
http://www.news.navy.mil/search/display.asp?story_id=13328

So, I have to ask, are all these things happening a coincidence, or did Aussie Bloke provide us truthful information that the world as we know it will not exist after June? I personally think its true, there are just too many coincidences. Something is going on, and inbound comets seem to be the likely thing causing this.

I will close by asking you to please post this email on your site. There are a lot of unsaved people that read your website and this is a great opportunity to witness the gospel to them. Even though I believe things are coming, I have total and absolute peace because I know I will be with Christ after I leave this world. Hopefully, your readers have that piece as well. If not, they can go to this link to see all that is needed for total peace.

06.01.04 08:36 AM


1,663 posted on 06/02/2004 9:28:14 PM PDT by Honestly (There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the enemy.)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

LOL...

I also have a sister and brother who are much lighter than I. She is a tow head.

When you look deep, we are not that divided, Egypt has the same basket and pottery designs. The rock art is also the
same as the American Indian. Not all of it of course, but a lot is, I discovered it while searching for weaving and basket patterns years ago.

Gives some truth to we are all God's children.

They are now doing some dna tests on indians and jews to see if they are related, someone is forming a data base.

All interesting, but it won't change me, as I am me.


1,664 posted on 06/02/2004 9:35:44 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You can help win the election by becoming a REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, easy go to Court House and sign up)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

It was supposed to be a secret...


1,665 posted on 06/02/2004 9:38:02 PM PDT by null and void (If you think more government is the solution to every problem, North Korea should be your paradise!)
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To: Rushmore Rocks; null and void

Hope you are enjoying your birthday celebration, Mrs. RR.

Nully! Are gentlemen supposed to ask a lady their age? ;)


1,666 posted on 06/02/2004 9:38:04 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Honestly
I am still trying to make something of all this. I linked from another site that was talking about it.

Could this possibly be true? I couldn't believe it was on Bush Country.

This could sure explain a lot of things.
1,667 posted on 06/02/2004 9:39:41 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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To: Donna Lee Nardo

I didn't ask, I guessed, I guess...


1,668 posted on 06/02/2004 9:41:46 PM PDT by null and void (If you think more government is the solution to every problem, North Korea should be your paradise!)
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To: null and void
I know isn't that a hoot. I think it all suppose to be a sercet. ;)
1,669 posted on 06/02/2004 9:41:51 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

And the vets/heroes would have received all the honors, awe and respect due them right from the get-go. *Sigh*


1,670 posted on 06/02/2004 9:43:14 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: JustPiper

Twin Cities... home to the 19th hijacker...
What was his mission supposed to be? And don't they have a habit of returning to sites of failed missions?


1,671 posted on 06/02/2004 9:45:17 PM PDT by GorillaMa (The most dangerous place in the world... between a gorilla mom and her babes!)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

The fact that it's on Bush Country gives it legitimacy IMO. Also, I've read that all of the small 3 and 4 magnitude earthquakes in abnormal locations recently may be cave and bunker-making operations. It sounds far-fetched, but some of the earthquakes happened in places where earthquakes don't happen. By being on Bush Country, it seems like conservatives are being given the heads-up about it. Time will tell. Who has a cave we can retreat to?


1,672 posted on 06/02/2004 9:47:43 PM PDT by Honestly (There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the enemy.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

It sounds completely plausible, Granny.


1,673 posted on 06/02/2004 9:49:26 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Donna Lee Nardo

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Sigh no more, DLN, as the same Anti-US Gang is still out there doing the same thing to our Hero American Soldiers today that they did yesterday..!!!

The Enemy is now Within...
and always has been.

.


1,674 posted on 06/02/2004 9:52:20 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Oh...and Happy Birthday, once more!


1,675 posted on 06/02/2004 9:54:02 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: JustPiper; Jill

Via eavesdropping, terror suspects nabbed

Intelligence officials use cellphone signals to track Al Qaeda operatives, as number of mid-level arrests rises.

By Faye Bowers | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

WASHINGTON – An ordinary-looking grid map of Riyadh adorns one wall of a command-and-control center deep inside a government building in Saudi Arabia's capital.
The map is higher-tech than it appears at first glance. Tiny embedded lights flash red when certain cellphones - those belonging to suspected terrorists - initiate or receive a call. Teams of officials from Saudi Arabia, the FBI, the CIA, and the US Treasury Department decide instantly whether simply to watch and listen to the suspected terrorist - or to send in screaming police cars to nab him.


So far, officials say, this technology - and others - has enabled them to interrupt several terror plots and nab dozens of suspected terrorists. Certainly it hasn't served as a panacea, as the attacks on foreign workers in Saudi Arabia's oil-worker compounds last weekend show. At least 22 people, including one American, were killed when terrorists stormed a compound where foreign oil workers lived. One terrorist was captured, while three others escaped using hostages as shields.

It doesn't take long for terrorists to figure out how authorities are tracing them and then change methods. Still, the technology has proved helpful in rolling up cells in Europe, the Middle East, Southeast Asia, and America. "Today, gumshoe is really a lot more electronics," says Peter Crooks, a retired FBI agent who specialized in counterterrorism. "They have some pretty sophisticated equipment."

Recent progress

Cooperating officials in many countries have been quietly chipping away at terror cells over the past several months. Recent progress includes:

• Japan arrested five foreigners with suspected ties to Al Qaeda on May 26. Pakistan had detained four others on May 24.

• The Saudi government killed five suspected militants in the Buraida area on May 21.

• On May 6, the Philippines arrested an alleged cell leader with Jemaah Islamiyah, a Southeast Asian group tied to Al Qaeda.

• Spanish police arrested a Moroccan April 27, and said it was seeking five others for roles in the March 11 Madrid train bombings. So far, 19 have been detained for their roles in those bombings.

• South Africa deported five Al Qaeda members on April 9. Government officials there claim the moves led to the detentions of several others in Jordan.

• Jordan foiled what it called the most serious attempt yet to overthrow its government on April 9. Four terrorists were killed and three detained after they attempted to use chemical weapons and truck bombs against several government targets, including the prime minister's office and the US Embassy there.

Terrorists, of course, catch on to the new tracking procedures and seek safer ways to communicate. Osama bin Laden, for example, stopped using satellite phones because he found out - with the delivery of a guided missile - that the US was tracking his position via the satellite.

But terrorists found a new system that enabled them to use phones that were difficult, if not impossible, to track.

SIM cards, for Subscriber Identity Model, were developed to create a universal - and cheaper - cellphone system. Under the old approach, a resident from, say, Britain would be charged at a local rate when making cellphone calls in England. But if he were to travel to Germany, he would be charged long distance rates. Under the new system, he can buy a German SIM card - which contains a fingernail-sized computer chip - and make the same calls at local rates.

The information on pricing, minutes, and local telephone numbers is encoded in the chip. But since there is no need for a local record of the purchaser's name and credit information, as there is when setting up a land line or a traditional cellphone account, it makes it easier for people to use phones undetected.

"What we're seeing is that people who want to remain invisible to law enforcement are doing things like this in order to evade interceptions," says a telecommunications engineer who's helped develop ways to track cellphone users. Still, he adds, "this doesn't make you immune from interceptions."

After years of tracking terrorists, investigators have amassed a large database of land-line and traditional cellphone numbers they are watching (or listening to). All it takes is a call from one of those numbers to a phone with a SIM card to discover who's using the undetectable phone.

How one arrest happened

This is what led investigators to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the mastermind of the 9/11 plot, who was arrested in Pakistan in March 2003. A suspected terrorist whom German authorities were watching placed a call to someone with a cellphone in Pakistan on April 11, 2002.

No one spoke. But authorities said the call was made to alert Mr. Mohammed that an attack on German tourists visiting Tunisia was about to take place, which it did, later that day. Authorities began tracking the SIM card, which Mohammed supposedly moved from phone to phone, creating problems in locating his position.

But pinpointing the location of the phone was much easier. Investigators tracked it by analyzing the signals from different cellphone towers. The time it takes a signal to "propagate and return back tells how far the cellphone is from the tower," says an engineer. The reason the red lights flash so quickly in the Saudi command and control center is that "the timing is nearly simultaneous," he says.

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This certainly ties in with my concern with the kiosk.


1,676 posted on 06/02/2004 9:55:40 PM PDT by GorillaMa (The most dangerous place in the world... between a gorilla mom and her babes!)
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To: Letitring

You have a great sense of humor tonight! LOL (again)!


1,677 posted on 06/02/2004 9:58:04 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: Honestly
You are right. Check out this site It has all kinds of stuff on there beside this...

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread55275/pg1

And then I found this linked there. Now I am not into any of this. When I saw the Mayan calendar I took notice.


The Oneness Celebration during the Venus Transit of June 6-8 this year takes place at an amazing gathering of energies in the Mayan calendar. In the age old Tzolkin calendar the venus transit has been celebrated without interruption by the Mayan people for some 2500 years. The Oneness Celebration is a gathering celebrating the Venus Transit of June 2004 and a Meditation to focus on the Enlightenment of Humanity by the Year 2012.

Year 2012, 2012, Venus Transit, Mayan Calendar, Enlightenment, Oneness Celebration, Carl Johan Calleman

Venus Transit: The Oneness Celebration
By Carl-Johan Calleman




The sight of Venus on the Sun is by far the noblest that astronomy can afford.

Edmund Halley, Astronomer Royal, 1691



Global enlightenment is a real possibility for our generation. The Oneness Celebration invites us all to acknowledge the unity that exists and is available for us to embrace.

Neale Donald Walsch





The ”Astronomical Event of the Year ” of 2004 is approaching – the Venus Transit of June 8. This is not an ordinary astronomical event. It is one that has not occurred since 1882 and that so no person living has previously experienced. It is also one that is clearly visible and experiential in nature. You do not have to read charts to realize its significance. The planet Venus will pass across the disc of the sun for a period of about seven hours and serve as a symbol of the unification of the masculine and feminine that in the time ahead is about to take place. Millions will acknowledge and honor the possibility for humankind that is now emerging.

More at link...

http://www.experiencefestival.com/index.php/topic/articles/article/2033
1,678 posted on 06/02/2004 9:58:39 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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To: DAVEY CROCKETT

Perhaps you know,

that the saying:

. . . '. . . . Lord willin and the Creek don't rise.'

Had to do with--and the Creek indians don't rise up on the warpath and prevent it.


1,679 posted on 06/02/2004 10:00:06 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Honestly

We have bunker at our damn. Come on down!


1,680 posted on 06/02/2004 10:00:22 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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