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To: nuconvert
The reality is, the U.S. doesn't fight like that. We identify the enemy, and then try our best to limit casualties to that enemy. We can't declare war on 1.2 billion people, the vast majority of whom just want to live and provide for their families.

I am not saying that we should declare war on 1.2 billion people. What I am saying is that if a lot of them end up as collateral damage in our just war against Holy Jihad in Muslim territory, then the moral responsibility for those deaths lies not with us, but with the Muslim people who have not been able or willing to contain this deadly plague on their own.

What I am saying is that discussions about whether Islam is or is not a releigion of peace are as pointless as discussions over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

What I am saying is that while we must recognize that our power is not ulimited and that there are be practical political and military reasons why we cannot invade and occupy every Muslim country, to the extent that we find it effective to do so, we have that moral right.

Also, please don't tell me there are 1.2 billion Muslims in the world. I'm sure there would be many fewer if allegiance to Allah and Mohammed were not enforced under the threat of death in the most disgusting ways imaginable, as it is in almost all Muslim nations.

42 posted on 05/29/2004 2:35:46 PM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: Maceman

"What I am saying is that discussions about whether Islam is or is not a releigion of peace are as pointless as discussions over how many angels can dance on the head of a pin."

I Agree.

I don't think we have the moral right to invade and occupy every muslim country to demand the cessation of a religion. Nor do I think it's necessary.
There was an interesting article posted several days ago,. In part, it spoke about the shock that muslims coming to the U.S. receive, when they realize that the majority of mosques here and muslim organizations are run by wahabbis.
Most immigrants come from Asia, (where the majority of muslims live), and in those countries, wahhabis are either not tolerated or put on a short leash (maybe not such a good choice of words, currently). They don't expect to have to deal with radical fundamentalist muslims when they move to U.S.. The wahhabi sect (which is very small, but very wealthy) needs to be reigned in. As do several other sects.


52 posted on 05/29/2004 3:09:43 PM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: Maceman

Judge society by fruits of its exports of culture: jihad, suicide vest and bombers, destruction of ancient Christian churches, burning flags, articles of paranoia and conspiracy, tapes of snuffing, photos and dramas glorifying men with blood on hands for murder....where is mathematics, poems of love (even 1001 Arabian Nights is stories of murder...and woman who attempt to avoid own murder), art, science,etc?


69 posted on 05/29/2004 3:48:50 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Xristos: the Light of the World)
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