THE REAL DEAL
ISLAMIC TERRORISTS MURDERING AMERICANS AT A RATE OF 3000 INNOCENTS PER HOUR
Where is the outrage?? It is ONLY for the terrorists.
GOTTA HEAR THIS (911 in sound ~ 3 megabytes)
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Our jury system rests on the realization that the average reasonable person has the ability to objectively know that crimes such as rape, torture, and murder are evil rather than good. The crimes against humanity that took place on 9/11 are also evil in the eyes of God--despite Shermer's denial of the existence of any God above and beyond the mystical force of Darwinian evolution.
Regardless of the nationality or the delusions of a terrorist, the intentional mass murder of thousands of innocent civilians is wrong. Will listing every delusion held by Tim McVeigh ever make his crimes less vicious or bring his victims (whom McVeigh compared to anonymous Star Wars "storm troopers") back to life?
Mr. Shermer should be ashamed of defending terrorists who killed thousands of innocents in the name of God. Will any of us really move closer to what Mr. Shermer calls "enlightenment" if we join him in dismissing the 9/11 mass murders as a "difference of perspective"?
What a perfect description of Moral Equivalency
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THE REAL DEAL
Where is the outrage?? It is ONLY for the terrorists.
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"He should issue a public apology for trying to minimize the evil of these actions and ignoring the human pain they caused."
WHY? An apology will not take away his insanity.
Crazy.
Simply crazy.
Shermer is an Occidental College historian of science (he has a recent book on Alfred Russel Wallace, who shares credit with Darwin for the theory of natural selection). But he also has written pop atheism books denying religion and the supernatural.
Does this apply to the Nazis as well? And Tim McVeigh?
IDIOT.
I've never seen the moral relativism argumnet applied to an act so extreme and clear-cut before. Does Schermer use the same logic when discussing the Holocauset?
Then this guy should have no qualms about us nuking Damascus, Tehran, Pyongyang, Cairo, et. al.
This is just the hippy mantra "If It Feels Good, Do It" taken to its logical conclusion.
Millions of Germans celebrated Hitler and millions of Japanese celebrated Tojo.
We will eradicate the evil fanaticism of Islam until the survivors beg us to kill them.
Is genocide evil?
Then how about civilizationcide?
If it was his family murdered, Mr. Shermer would be singing a different tune. He is so twisted by the politics of victimhood that he is incapable of rational thought.
Michael Shermer at least makes it clear that Americans were hated by millions (as he put it) long BEFORE the Bush administration took office and before 911!!! The rest of his reasoning is pathetic, but at least he got one thing right.
Methinks he has not read Scott Peck's "People of the Lie"
"The evil deny the suffering of their guilt - the painful awareness of their sin, inadequacy, and imperfection - by casting their pain onto others through projection and scapegoating. They themselves may not suffer, but those around them do. They cause suffering. The evil create for those under their dominion a miniature sick society"
Cheers,
I suggest that if Mr. Shermer or one or more of his relatives had been in one of the towers on 9/11, he'd have written a very different book.
Moral equivalency.... I wonder if Mr. Shermer would understand someone's attempted murder of him, as just a difference of opinion.
Mark
Now that's wisdom. Now that I understand that a leopard cannot change it's spots and only does what leopards are supposed to do, I'll be sure to avoid leopards. And if they venture into my yard I'll just have do what I need to do to prevent that. I'll build a fence. Yes, that will work. But wait! It can jump the fence. Okay, I'll bang on some kettles and make some noise. That doesn't work either. Just wakes the jungle up and all the other leopards come over to see what's happening. What to do when it is man against beast? Only one thing to do. When they get too invasive and nasty and start eating people you put them on their own island surrounded by alligators.
So, I'm not mad at the leopards anymore than someone should be mad at a cockroach. You don't see the pest control guy screaming and stomping on every bug he exterminates, do you? No, of course not. He just waves his magic wand and does what needs to be done and then goes home and has a beer.
This is a potentially fatal mental illness, understanding what your would-be killers are thinking.
It is epidemic in Europe, and is well-established here through the schools and the "mainline" Protestant churches.
We may need to extirpate this illness in order to survive.
One undeniable fact is that if the terrorists win, history will not describe what they did as evil, it will in fact be described as brave and revolutionary. This is why the West must win this one, why we say it is a war over our very civilization.
However, if one subscribes to the theory of ethics that holds that there are some behaviors that we all agree are evil, then the killing of innocents must be among that list. In this respect they are true evil and it cannot be argued that they are not. Only if you first posit that some evil is OK is a theory that the ends justify the means going to be accepted.
Well, let's take this idiot on his own words. He's sawing off the very branch he's sitting on. We should oblige him, and in so doing save a few trees.
No absolutes in the universe, heh? Let him get thrown in a shredder and see if he shouts 'It's all relative!' on his way down the chute.