Fallujah Emerging As Islamic Mini-State (posted 5/25/2004)

AP ^ | Tue, May 25, 2004 | HAMZA HENDAWI

[elfman2]

"let them live in their own little world."

I think the world’s to small for that.

[elfman2]

"And a couple of Marines in Falluja died for this yesterday?"

Many. I think it’s a betrayal.

[elfman2]

"Like father like son?"

Bingo!

[elfman2]

"When you kill all the enemies who will fight and destroy lots of their toys you HAVE WON and no amount of RATmedia distortion can change that. If they want more the Marines will be happy to provide it."

Just like our Vietnamese victory, it’s about as politically plausible that we can send our Marines back in at any time

[ought-six]

Fallujah is the Taliban writ small. But it will become the Taliban writ large very, very shortly. I have said before, and I say it here again: Mohammedans are not capable of self-government; they subscribe to totalitariansim, and they are comfortable with it. Freedom and self-determination scares the $hit out of them.

[Theo]

That's because they're *expected* to be savages, and we're *expected* to be civilized. Talk about racist, hm?

[TexKat]

Ping

[TexKat]

Armed residents of Fallujah parade two bare-chested and blindfolded men who were caught selling alcohol in the city in the back of a pick up truck. The men were whipped with hosepipes and taken through the streets as an example to those who violate th laws of Islam(AFP/Ahmed Faddam)

An Iraqi Civil Defense Corps ( ICDC ) soldier rests in an Iraqi Police station in Kharma, near Fallujah, Iraq, Wednesday, May 19, 2004. The police station, which is defended by the U.S. Marines 1st Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment, and ICDC soldiers, was attacked Tuesday night by militiamen using rocket-propelled grenades, mortars, and small arms. There were no casualties. (AP Photo/Jim MacMillan)

Residents of Fallujah celebrate as they ride on a pick up truck through the streets of the restive city, 50 kms west of Baghdad. Both Iraqi police and masked insurgents shot off rounds and people flooded the streets, waving Iraqi national flags and honking their car horns in jubilation over what they mistakenly believed was a deal between the marines and the city's leaders to scale back the US presence in Fallujah.(AFP/Roberto Schmidt)

A member of the Iraqi Civil defense Corps (ICDC) prays at a joint checkpoint as US soldiers look on at the entrance of Fallujah. heavy machine gun fire erupted in Fallujah after more than a dozen US Marines' armoured vehicles entered the Sunni Muslim bastion on a symbolic tour of the city rocked last month by the deadliest fighting in Iraq since last year's US invasion(AFP/File/Antonio Scorza)

[Eurotwit]

Thanks for the pictures.

[Hank Rearden]

Once W is re-elected it will be time get the can opener out and unleash that whoop-a$$ that they have coming.

Yeah. Sure.

You know what's going to happen if "dubya" is reelected? More "free" pill scams and bigger deficits.

If he doesn't have the motivation to restrain government when his job is on the line, what do you suppose he'll do when freed of all such considerations?

[justshutupandtakeit]

Is this from the Kerry campaign? More stagmire crap.

Obviously those who are paying attention know there is nothing like Vietnam going on in Iraq.

[Eurotwit]

Hah..

It did happen :-)

I know you probably is not going to read this, but I just could not resist.

Cheers.

[swarthyguy]

What happened?

Democracy? or what?

You think Falluja Iraq are successes.

Okay.

[InterceptPoint]

AP: Consider the source.

[Eurotwit]

Hey!

Good to see you posting.

I am not ready to pass judgement on this project yet. As you might remember I think in this in terms of generations.

However, it has certainly been a rougher ride than I had expected.

I also have to admit that I have increasing doubts that any sort of enlightened democratic society can exists along side with islam. If it is possible, the world has certainly never seen it yet. This, I must admit, had made me increasingly worried about the islamic minority in Norway (and other western European countries).

Nice to hear from you.

Cheers,

Euro.

[swarthyguy]

Well, the fatal flaw in Bush's Great Emancipation Strategy is the following.

The democratic impulse is a significant minority, especially in the Arab world, if not the greater Muslim world.

The dirty not so secret is that given the opportunity, many, at least half, would prefer a theocratic society rather than any form of secularism.

The Civil War in Iraq has just begun. The jihadi moths strategy is attracting worldwide jihadis but the question, how many dead soldiers is the USA going to tolerate.

Plus, all our rhetoric reeks of hypocrisy when the US wholeheartedly supports totalitarian monarchies like the Sauds, endorse the dismissing of legislatures as in Jordan, a sham election endorsing Musharraf in Pakistan, and similar window dressing in Egypt.

Either we go whole hog for secularism even with StrongMen or end up endorsing a virtual Shia state, as we have in Southern Iraq.