[jscd3]

villainizing

villainizing?

It sounds like this individual is engaded in obscurafication...

[jscd3]

villainizing

villainizing?

It sounds like this individual is engaged in obscurafication...

[BlessedBeGod]

The new leader of the Catholic Diocese of Worcester stunned gay rights supporters by writing in a church newsletter that Catholics, especially public officials, pushing to legalize same-sex marriage are ``in cooperation with evil.''

Woohoo! A real man!

Josh Friedes, advocacy director of the Freedom to Marry Coalition, said, ``Not only is he villainizing gay and lesbian couples and Catholics who support civil rights,'' Friedes said, ``he is also attacking reform Jews and Protestant faith traditions that consider the unions of same-sex couples worth blessing.''

No he's not. He's clarifying the teachings of his own Church.

[vaudine]

Gay marriage is sick on so many levels. In fact, it is not a civil right.
Homosexuals cannot be happy with civil unions recognized by the state. No, we all must look at the naked emperor and admire and gush over his elegant new clothes. Civil rights of free religion, free speech, and free association--out the window. Begone!!!

Average, ordinary, tolerant people better rethink the limits of their tolerance unless they want their kindergartners to be learning of the mystic rites of anal/fecal sex. Enough, I say.!!!

End of rant for the time/day.

vaudine

[The Mayor]

where have they been for all these years?

This should have been the statement for years and years...

[highlander_UW]

``Oh, my God. Wow,'' gasped Marianne Duddy-Burke of Boston Dignity, a group of gay Catholics. ``It's an appalling statement on so many levels. It disregards a civil servant's duty to the entire community.''

Firstly, since when is a Bishop a "civil servant"? He's not employed by the government.

Secondly, disregarding that inaccuracy, what "duty" would require him to support lies over Biblical truth?

[Snuffington]

Josh Friedes, advocacy director of the Freedom to Marry Coalition, said, ``Not only is he villainizing gay and lesbian couples and Catholics who support civil rights,'' Friedes said, ``he is also attacking reform Jews and Protestant faith traditions that consider the unions of same-sex couples worth blessing.''

Um.. yep. And lest you think this is his own personal opinion on the matter:

From "CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING PROPOSALS TO GIVE LEGAL RECOGNITION TO UNIONS BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS"

Those who would move from tolerance to the legitimization of specific rights for cohabiting homosexual persons need to be reminded that the approval or legalization of evil is something far different from the toleration of evil.

In those situations where homosexual unions have been legally recognized or have been given the legal status and rights belonging to marriage, clear and emphatic opposition is a duty. One must refrain from any kind of formal cooperation in the enactment or application of such gravely unjust laws and, as far as possible, from material cooperation on the level of their application.

[Aquinasfan]

the note ends with a bombshell: ``Moreover, it must be pointed out that Catholics, especially public officials, who willingly and with approval facilitate the legal sanctioning of same-sex unions are involving themselves in cooperation with evil.''

A "bombshell"?!

Our society is in serious trouble.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

From privacy to civil rights to you're a bigot if you don't agree. The Bishop is right.

[aruanan]

The new leader of the Catholic Diocese of Worcester stunned gay rights supporters by writing in a church newsletter that Catholics, especially public officials, pushing to legalize same-sex marriage are ``in cooperation with evil.''

``Oh, my God. Wow,'' gasped Marianne Duddy-Burke of Boston Dignity, a group of gay Catholics. ``It's an appalling statement on so many levels. It disregards a civil servant's duty to the entire community.''  

I wonder how Marianne would gasp over this:

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.
--I Corinthians 6:8-11, 18-20

[what's up]

Wow...the Catholic church is really getting some spine...first disallowing pro-choice politicians from Communion and now this.

I may even go back to the Catholic church! (Well, not really.)

[sawmill trash]

Why, I can't believe any true servant of the people would come out and say something so hurtful and mean about his fellow brothers and sisters </sarcasm>

Wait a minute, this bishop is a servant of God, who by the way says all this gay stuf will buy you a seat in hell.

You can please some of the people all of the time.
You can please all of the people some of the time.
But when it comes to queers there just ain't no pleasing them.

[little jeremiah]

Homosexual Agenda Ping - There's so much to mine here.

How about this statement which REEKS of ignorance that cannot be less than willful:

"Oh, my God. Wow,'' gasped Marianne Duddy-Burke of Boston Dignity, a group of gay Catholics. ``It's an appalling statement on so many levels. It disregards a civil servant's duty to the entire community."

So those of religious vocations are CIVIL servants? Not GOD's servants? I guess she thinks priests and others should surrender themselves to HER will. Who does she think she is?

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.

[L.N. Smithee]

``That's pretty strong language,'' Rushford said on hearing the paragraph yesterday. ``I just would hope that people from all walks of life and our society would agree that the civil rights of individuals are not debatable.''

Nice little flip-flop there, Mr. Rushford, switching the subject to "civil rights of individuals" when you know good and well that the bishop was countering your stupid statement about what church teachings regarding same-sex marriage were, and that is the ground on which he made his strong "clarification."

[ZULU]

``Moreover, it must be pointed out that Catholics, especially public officials, who willingly and with approval facilitate the legal sanctioning of same-sex unions are involving themselves in cooperation with evil.''


Wjat's wrong with that?? Its only true. As a matter of fact, I'd expand that to any Christian or Jew.

[L.N. Smithee]

``Oh, my God. Wow,'' gasped Marianne Duddy-Burke of Boston Dignity, a group of gay Catholics. ``It's an appalling statement on so many levels. It disregards a civil servant's duty to the entire community.''

A bishop is NOT a civil servant, you moron. You WANT that to be the consensus, because once a community views the clergy as its "civil servants," they are bound to serve as the citizens see fit. You want the leftist Massachusetts courts to slip their slimy tentacles into the churches, and to dictate their policy.

Josh Friedes, advocacy director of the Freedom to Marry Coalition, said, ``Not only is he villainizing gay and lesbian couples and Catholics who support civil rights,'' Friedes said, ``he is also attacking reform Jews and Protestant faith traditions that consider the unions of same-sex couples worth blessing.''

....and?

Is that any different for the way you and your other extra-Scriptural advocates consider accurate Biblical interpretation as worth "attacking?"

[FrankR]

"That's pretty strong language..."

"If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck...it's a duck."

[NYer]

Responding to Worcester City Clerk David Rushford's public statements that allowing gays and lesbians to marry is in line with church teachings on inclusivity, Worcester Bishop Robert McManus penned a ``pastoral note of clarification'' published Friday.

"Homosexual unions are totally lacking in the biological and anthropological elements of marriage and family which would be the basis, on the level of reason, for granting them legal recognition. Such unions are not able to contribute in a proper way to the procreation and survival of the human race. The possibility of using recently discovered methods of artificial reproduction, beyond involving a grave lack of respect for human dignity,(15) does nothing to alter this inadequacy."

CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING PROPOSALS TO GIVE LEGAL RECOGNITION TO UNIONS BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS

Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

"...It disregards a civil servant's duty to the entire community.''

Since when is a priest a civil servant? A priest is your confessor, your spiritual guide, your liaison to The Church. He isn't there to condone whatever perverted pleasures of the flesh you wish to indulge in. He is there to guide you towards Christ by helping you to live a life that has meaning.

[BayouCoyote]

Breath of fresh air bump.