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To: johniegrad
You totally missed my point. If the call is so loud that it violates the city's noise ordinance, then I agree that it should not be broadcast. But for people, specifically Christians who have been pushing Christianity on others for centuries, to say that they shouldn't have to listen to this or that because it's not their religion is hypocritical. It violates freedom of religion and speech in that those who oppose based on those types of arguments want the city to disallow the call based on those arguments, not on the noise issue.
28 posted on 05/25/2004 8:41:54 AM PDT by wmichgrad
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To: wmichgrad

I didn't miss your point. Please answer the questions.


31 posted on 05/25/2004 8:43:21 AM PDT by johniegrad
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To: wmichgrad
"If the call is so loud that it violates the city's noise ordinance, then I agree that it should not be broadcast."

That was already determined. It was. They received a WAIVER so that they wouldn't have to obey the noise ordinance.

33 posted on 05/25/2004 8:44:11 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK))
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To: wmichgrad
"specifically Christians who have been pushing Christianity on others for centuries..."

Oh, yeah, those Sunday Church bells were sooooo pushy....I think you overpaid for your education....

41 posted on 05/25/2004 8:50:48 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Countries around the world are ALIENATING ME...an American!)
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To: wmichgrad
I don't push my Christianity on ANYONE, and I REFUSE to let them push their crap on me. They have one goal and one goal only, to overtake us. I will fight it until I die.

I like the Apostle's Creed analogy stated somewhere in a previous post. Would the muslims approve of hearing that 5 times a day or whatever?

47 posted on 05/25/2004 8:53:32 AM PDT by ostephani
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To: wmichgrad

How many times have you heard a Christian prayer sang several times a day, everyday over a loudspeaker for the ENTIRE neighborhood to hear?

Sorry, your argument does not hold water.


54 posted on 05/25/2004 8:59:38 AM PDT by FeliciaCat (Life is to short for ugly shoes.)
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To: wmichgrad
But for people, specifically Christians who have been pushing Christianity on others for centuries, to say that they shouldn't have to listen to this or that because it's not their religion is hypocritical.

You are being deliberatly obtuse and I have to wonder why.

I don't care if they proselytyze; freedom of religion doesn't involve VOLUME.

129 posted on 05/25/2004 10:00:38 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: wmichgrad

The "call to prayer" IS a prayer. Why should those of other religions be forced to listen to their prayers?

Did you ever learn the phrase "thin edge of the wedge" in your time at WMich.?

Doesn't seem so.

Jeezlouise, you've been on FR one week, and already are posting apologist nonsense for the moslems.

How come?


188 posted on 05/25/2004 11:58:22 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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