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New cracks in Paris air terminal
Reuters UK ^ | Mon 24 May, 2004 | Noah Barkin

Posted on 05/24/2004 1:23:53 PM PDT by Gamecock

PARIS (Reuters) - New cracks have appeared at a Paris airport terminal, a day after part of the roof collapsed, and the airport's head has vowed to tear the terminal down if an investigation finds it is unsafe.

Terminal 2E at Charles de Gaulle airport has been closed to passengers since Sunday's accident killed four people, but workers spotted the cracks as they cleared the rubble.

"A certain number of cracks were observed in a second zone that is identical in design to the area where the roof collapsed," Rene Brun, director of operations at the airport, told reporters on Monday.

"Given our concerns about what happened on Sunday and for precautionary reasons, we decided to evacuate it."

Concrete, metal and glass crashed down onto a waiting area in terminal 2E on Sunday morning, bringing down a large section of the long tube-like building at Paris' biggest airport -- minutes after passengers saw and heard cracks in the roof.

Permanent closure of the showcase building would be a big blow to the finances and image of operator Aeroports de Paris (ADP) as it prepares for partial privatisation, but ADP chairman Pierre Graff said safety was the top priority.

"If all the (structural) rings which make up this terminal are beyond repair, we will raze everything to the ground," he told Le Parisien newspaper in an interview. "We will take no risk in terms of safety."

Firemen said they had retrieved four bodies from the rubble, revising the death toll down from five. The search could last days and it was not clear if there were more bodies under the rubble, a fire brigade spokesman said.

FLGHTS AND PASSENGERS REDIRECTED

The futuristic terminal, used mainly by national carrier Air France, opened only 11 months ago and is intended eventually to handle 10 million passengers.

Covered by a domed roof perforated with small windows that bathe it in light, the terminal cost 750 million euros (502 million pounds) and was hailed as a triumph of engineering and design.

Its about 60 daily flights are being diverted to other terminals at the airport in Roissy, on the northeastern outskirts of Paris.

The collapse has raised questions about the design and construction, and whether the terminal was built too fast.

Hubert Fontanel, who oversaw construction of the terminal for ADP, declined to speculate on the reasons for the roof's collapse until a judicial investigation is complete.

He said that during construction, ADP had found cracks in some supporting pillars but they had been reinforced with carbon fibres. He denied construction had been rushed or that ADP opted for a futuristic cylindrical design without regard for safety.

"The design is avant garde but the building was conceived with the strictest technical requirements and is made of classic materials like cement," he said.

Architect Paul Andreu flew back from China where he is working on an opera house. "I can't explain what happened. I just don't understand it," he told L'Humanite newspaper.

Andreu and ADP said they adhered to all required security checks. They said the terminal's opening last year was delayed by just over a week because of problems such as electricity installations, which had nothing to do with the bigger structure.

Even so, shares in French construction firm Vinci, which helped build the terminal, ended down 1.9 percent on Monday.

Analysts said the accident dented ADP's image and could delay plans to partially privatise it in 2005. "This has to be a significant embarrassment," one said.



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To: stylin_geek

I remember reading about the mall walkway collapse. IIRC, the plans were unclear on how the walkway should be attached. Well, actually, I'm being gracious. The way the architect drew up the structure, it could not be built as shown, so the contractor improvised.


21 posted on 05/24/2004 2:01:21 PM PDT by snopercod (Freedom can be preserved only if it is treated as a supreme principle which must not be sacrificed)
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To: Gamecock

oops .... I thought this was a Paris Hilton thread and somebody had a picture of her crack. sorry....


22 posted on 05/24/2004 2:02:46 PM PDT by Delbert
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To: dead
Deconstructionism at its finest.
23 posted on 05/24/2004 2:03:01 PM PDT by CaptainK
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To: Gamecock
French Airport Surrenders

Was there a planeload of German tourists nearby?

24 posted on 05/24/2004 2:04:02 PM PDT by Cooter
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To: Gamecock
It was lucky the ceiling started disintegrating before the major structure came down, otherwise the death/injury could have been far worse. When cracks first appeared in the ceiling, passengers noticed sprinklings of de-brie falling down.

ba da bump.

25 posted on 05/24/2004 2:04:12 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (You get more with a gun and a smile than just a smile itself!)
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To: JZoback
With todays engineering technology and ability to build computer models that reflect real time stress and stability dynamics, cutting edge should not be a problem.

IMHO, computer modeling is just another tool - not the be-all and end-all of design and engineering. It should be used in conjunction with hard-earned experience and common sense. Unfortunately, I think that many designers and architects,in their zeal to produce a magazine-cover design, will push the envelope too far for real-world contractors.

This isn't a new phenomenon. Just about every architect from Palladio to F.L. Wright to Frank Gehery has produced a design that looks wonderful but weathers, wears, and functions badly.

26 posted on 05/24/2004 2:09:48 PM PDT by AngryJawa (Thank You Troops!)
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To: dead
“The design is avant garde.”

The photo reminds me of late-1980's era "Deconstructivist" architecture.

Deconstructed indeed.

27 posted on 05/24/2004 2:12:41 PM PDT by AngryJawa (Thank You Troops!)
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To: Gamecock
New cracks in Paris air terminal

Designed by socialists and built by Muslims. What else would one expect.

28 posted on 05/24/2004 2:15:50 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: Gamecock
Now, this truely is Bush's fault! Allow me to explain.

It is extraordinarily expensive to maintain your mistress and her children in Paris at an appropriate style of life. Even at the mid-levels of the fabled French bureaucracy, cars, apartments, private schools, and so on can be hard on the pay check.

For years, this was not a problem because there were friendship gifts from the Iraqi government, especially, those in the oil ministry. These were not bribes!! They were simply gifts without strings that allowed the commerce in oil to move smoothly despite the silly sanctions the US bulldozed through the UN.

The UNers also got free will gifts as New York is even more expensive than Paris. But, then along came Bush and prevented Saddam from making any more gifts. The income had to be replaced for the sake of her children and the easiest way was to skim on government contracts. The margins of safety in steel and concrete construction made this a pretty safe bet, nothing like the old story of paying for the wooden prop on the new aircraft carrier instead of the super-special steel the specs called for.

So, if Bush hadn't invaded Iraq, the terminal would have been built to blueprint and none of these brave Frenchpersons would have had to die.

29 posted on 05/24/2004 2:17:18 PM PDT by Tacis (,)
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To: snopercod

Interesting, I seem to vaguely remember there were some supporting rods that were done in sections, rather than being all one piece, which contributed to the structure failing.

However, it seems to me that the builder should have known better than to "improvise."


30 posted on 05/24/2004 2:24:41 PM PDT by stylin_geek (Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
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To: Gamecock

Let me guess...

The design company will have a fire and none of the design records will survive.


31 posted on 05/24/2004 2:28:06 PM PDT by CPOSharky (Those terrorists must be real "he-men" if a pair of panties puts them over the edge.)
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To: johnb838
I've been "dying" to see what Freepers think of this.

I think the French build airport terminals about as good as they build aircraft carriers.

32 posted on 05/24/2004 2:47:53 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Does anyone know what the meaning of IS, is in Clinton-speak?)
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To: johnb838

OK, how about, sabotage by Islamists. Based on the "demographics" of the employees I saw the last time I was at CDG (in the older section, thanyaverymuch...) I'd say that if I were to bet that among those with fairly non restricted security clearances there were AQ or allies thereof, I'd win the bet....


33 posted on 05/24/2004 2:48:06 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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To: Gamecock
...to tear the terminal down if an investigation finds it is unsafe.

Okaaaay....

34 posted on 05/24/2004 2:50:03 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Yeah, the French aircraft carrier just tossed it's prop with no warning. At least the terminal had the decency to crack first.

France builds good products.


35 posted on 05/24/2004 2:51:58 PM PDT by snooker (John Flipping Kerry, the enemy's choice in Vietnam, the enemy's choice in Iraq.)
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To: xJones
The worst damage to a French airport was done by the French. Any Islamic terrorists in French airports are up against trained competition.

Gonna be a good week, when x whacks a homer in the first inning.

36 posted on 05/24/2004 2:53:35 PM PDT by FreedomFarmer (FReep & Bones, Class of '99)
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To: Gamecock
New cracks in Paris air terminal

Designed by socialists and built by Muslims. What else would one expect.

37 posted on 05/24/2004 3:19:28 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: snooker

Actually, the new French carrier had the flight-deck built TOO SHORT to accomodate their jets (this was a couple years ago...). Another embarassment in a list of many.


38 posted on 05/24/2004 3:47:45 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (Liberals are evidence that Satan is very active in this world)
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To: Gamecock

I've got a "crack" overheard in a Paris airport.

How many Frenchmen does it take to change a light bulb?

One.

He holds the bulb and all of Europe revolves around him.


39 posted on 05/24/2004 3:51:11 PM PDT by steveyp
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To: stylin_geek
I seem to vaguely remember there were some supporting rods that were done in sections, rather than being all one piece, which contributed to the structure failing.

Yes, I believe that is correct. The drawing showed a "wide spot" in the rod to support the walkway, which was technically impossible. The contractor used two rods side by side, which placed the lateral beam in double-shear rather than compression.

Disclaimer: My memory fails me sometimes.

40 posted on 05/24/2004 3:51:15 PM PDT by snopercod (Freedom can be preserved only if it is treated as a supreme principle which must not be sacrificed)
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