Better make sure she does not have anything to say about it or you will end up like this
Posted on 05/23/2004 11:54:30 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Calling the approval of same-sex marriage in Massachusetts "the straw that broke the camel's back," a group of Christian activists is in the beginning stages of an effort to have one state secede from the United States to become its own sovereign nation.
"Our Christian republic has declined into a pagan democracy," says Cory Burnell, president of ChristianExodus.org, a non-profit corporation based in Tyler, Texas. "There are some issues people just can't take anymore, and [same-sex marriage] might finally wake up the complacent Christians."
Burnell is leading the charge for a peaceful secession of one state from the union, and after originally considering Alabama, Mississippi and South Carolina due to their relatively small populations, coastal access, and the Christian nature of the electorate, Burnell says South Carolina has been selected as the target location.
The plan initially calls for at least 12,000 Christians willing to be active in political campaigns to move to the Palmetto State.
"We're not an invading force, we're reinforcements," Burnell tells WorldNetDaily, saying it would be a waste to move to liberal-minded states such as Massachusetts, New York or California where conservative votes would be diluted.
According to the ChristianExodus website, which is slated for a major relaunch next month, "Christians have actively tried to return our entire land to its moral foundation for more than 20 years. We can categorically say that absolutely nothing has been achieved. If you disagree, consider this:
* Abortion continues against the wishes of many states * Children may not pray in our schools * The Bible is not welcome in schools except under strict federal guidelines
* The 10 Commandments remain banned from public display * Sodomy is now legal and celebrated as 'diversity' rather than perversion
* Preaching Christianity will soon be outlawed as 'hate speech' * Gay marriage will be foisted upon us in the very near future
"All these atrocities continue in spite of the fact that we now have the 'right' people in places of power. Indeed, the occupant of the White House is a professing Christian. The U.S. attorney general is believed to be a devout Christian. 'Conservatives' control both Houses of Congress, and Republican presidents appointed seven of the nine Supreme Court justices."
The idea of moving thousands of people to affect the voting in one state is not new. As WorldNetDaily has previously reported, the Free State Project has goals of restoring certain personal liberties and limited government – but without seceding from the union. Last year, a group of 4,500 libertarians decided New Hampshire would be the best state.
S. Carolina state flag
Burnell, a math teacher and cell-phone dealer, stresses he's not looking for bloody battles that took place in the American Revolution and the Civil War, but is rather seeking a "political divorce."
"It's got to be different today," he says. "It has to be peaceful, brokered."
But he admits if the federal government decides to use military force to stop the effort, "Then it can't happen."
Already a dozen people are actively working on the project, and some 1,500 by e-mails of support have been received.
If all goes according to plan, Burnell is hoping to have a constitutional convention by 2014, with a president of the new nation – still to be known as South Carolina – elected in 2016, which is also a presidential election year in the U.S.
He says the nation would be founded on Christian principles, and the people writing its constitution would have to hash out details to safeguard it as a Christian republic.
For now, Burnell prefers to shy away from specifics on the precise laws governing the country.
"Independence first, details later," he says.
How goes the campaign to move all the--I forget which group, Libertarians?-- to New Hampshire or Montana to dominate the state's politics? Hope the Christians pick a different state than the Libertarians or whatever because they would destroy each other. There wouldn't be anything left but a few scattered copies of Atlas Shrugged and cartoon pamphlets blowing around the wilderness.
Idaho? ;o)
>>> highest populations of blacks in the country.
If we are talking about seceding again -- the South will rise again -- this will give us a good opportunity to jump-start our economy. I do not view this as a problem.
Not really. Probably only 1/3 of the polutation supported independence.
I agree, SC is a poor choice.
Idaho or Wyoming are much better IMO.
And it has Pantex in Amarillo and NASA in Houston. Take those and the federal government will get REALLY nervous about trying to take Texas back.
That's inconsistent. At least Dr. Norman Geisler (conservative Christian theologian and philosopher) is consistent enought to say that the American Revolution was "unjustified".
As a Christian you must take into account ALL the Biblical data, including the scriptural exceptions to governmental-authority-as-supreme.
In some respects, we have FAR more justification to independence than there was during the American Revolution. Around 40 million dead unborn children, gay marriage, the marxist-athiest domination in our country, the deletion of God from the public square.
Heck, we owe King George the third an apology for the enumerations of abuses in our Declaration of Independence if we think our present culture is more acceptable than what existed at the time of the American Revolution.
bump. This is the correct thread.
I think WA state would be a good choice. It gets a rap about being liberal, but the truth is, there are something like 3 counties (the big cities) that vote liberal and the rest of the state votes conservative but simply doesn't have the population to outweigh the 3 big counties. It has coast land, on the Pacific Rim for trading and is one of the most beautiful states in the country.
That's an unfair (and insulting) comment. First of all, if you read the article and/or checked out the web site you would see it is a peaceful route to secession that they are planning. The cultic MuSlims types are those who would sit idly by as unborn children are murdered.
Better make sure she does not have anything to say about it or you will end up like this
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Opinion?
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How much more serious?
But will those red state folks be willing to actually secede?
Now, after thirty plus years of abortion on demand serial killings averaging more than a million alive souls slaughtered per year in the specious name of 'a woman's right to choose', we face the truth that it is we Christians who have allowed our Republic to become a cesspool of secular humanism. Our response is supposed to be run away? Not hardly.
We're reaping what we have sown with our inaction. Time to get off our pious butts and vote the democrat/liberal/societal engineering socialist out of our offices, if we still have the numbers to effect change. Time to teach our children the godliness we've slacked from, in our 'christian schools' (read private Christian schools). If we do not, still we must remain to be the last remnants of the salt as the stew turns rancid.
When we vote the democrat party into the oblivion mode they deserve, time to raise up alternate candidates who will legislate on conservative terms and appoint subpreme Court Judges (so that branch of our government may once again be the Supreme Court) who will rule according to the actual Constitution, not the penumbras of crap being spewed forth now.
It would also help to impeach and remove a few of the judicial oligarchs! Leaving the Republic is tacit admission that we Christians have failed to exercise our responsibilities as sovereigns!
Finally, states such as Massatwosh!ts will spiral downward ever faster into chaos, if we leave the fools to their own socialist crap. Work in your own state to prevent recognition of the septic secular garbage those in liberal thrall create, and leave the fools to spiral downward into their own fecal pool.
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