OP-ED: Europe through American eyes —Hans Bergström

Daily Times ^ | Monday, May 24, 2004 | Hans Bergström

[longjack]

Look at post #17 and #35.

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[kittymyrib]

My thought exactly...one always hears that we should fear "the Arab street", but if another attack such as 9/11 happens, the world better fear the American street because there will be hell to pay. The appeasers/Democrats will try to hold back the tide, but it won't do any good. The old rattlesnake flag needs to come out of the closet and proclaim again, "Don't Tread on Me."

[tm22721]

Yeah we spent a lot of blood and treasure exterminating the national socialists, only to have another brand of socialism take its place.

I predict that we will be back 'over there' within the next 25 years.

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[tm22721]

Why do you think the Euros are allowing anti-Semitism to grow in their country ?

Anti-Semitism has flourished in Europe since the middle ages.

It is what Europeans do.

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[Carcharodon]

For what its worth, I think that most Europeans are far warier of conflict because they know far more about it than Americans. This doesn't mean they don't have a massive problem waiting in regards to falling birthrates and massive birthrates among Muslim immigrants, but it doesn explain their unwillingness to become involved in war unless utterly neccessary.

[FreedomPoster]

>>It'll make the Middle Age Crusades seem like a...hazing.

If the Europeans wake up to the Muslim threat, I expect we, or our children, will see events that make the 30 Years War look like a friendly competition.

[Nachum]

Europe is ripe for another continental war.

[Lancey Howard]

Above all, Americans see Europe as....

Uh, hello?
Europe isn't even on America's radar screen. Europe can drop dead. Or not. Nobody cares.

[FrankR]

"America also sees Europe as excessively inward looking, sometimes dangerously so... "

Well, once again our European allies try to define us in the U.S.

I think their are some more basic reasons, other than anti-semitism and "multiculturism".

The one main point is, that for the most part, Europe is a socialist conglomerate; and if there is one irrefutable fact, it is "Socialism doesn't work"...not for long, anyway.

The other point is - at least all WE hear - is how much the Europeans "hate" Americans. I'm still trying to figure out why; I mean we've been on their side and pulled them out of the fire during a couple of world wars, sent them a gazillion bucks in Foreign aide, and totally rebuilt their countries after the wars...but, they still hate us.

Then, I got to thinking about a nephew of a friend of mine...spoiled rotton, always had everything he wanted; he didn't appreciate anything. Then when time came for him to make it on his own, he pouted. He then proclaimed to "hate" his parents...all because he wasn't getting what he wanted, and getting his way anymore. All because he was expected to make it on his own.

Well, maybe that's not unlike the Europeans. The teat is not as readily available as it once was.

But, on the other hand it may be just that the liberal media "brethern" from the US have fed so much trash to their european counterparts, that europe is buying into the liberal trash our media puts out, and it's the only view they have of us.

However, let Europe keep going like it is, and they'll all be wearing Burkas in a few years anyway.

[Mr. Mojo]

We must assume them to be a minority who have not succumbed to the rampant and massive brain-washing of Euro-trash left.

Conservative Euros are a minority alright. But they exist in larger #'s than many folks think, and they're horrified at the scene they've watched develop around them. They're one of the few populations I wouldn't mind the U.S. taking in (as immigrants). Instead we take in third-worlders that seem dead-intent on transforming the U.S. into an exact replica of their third-world hellhole of origin. (See Hamtramck for just one of many examples).

[Mr. Mojo]

Europeans "hate" Americans. I'm still trying to figure out why; I mean we've been on their side and pulled them out of the fire during a couple of world wars, sent them a gazillion bucks in Foreign aide, and totally rebuilt their countries after the wars...but, they still hate us.

It's not uncommon for enablees to hate their enablers. In fact, it seems to be the rule.

[Mr. Mojo]

Europe isn't even on America's radar screen.

And that's probably what bothers them the most; they'd much rather be hated than ignored.

[AdamSelene235]

Well, WWI was payback for Lafeyette.

No, our banks wanted the loans they gave the Allies repaid. That wasn't going to happen in a stalemate.

We should, however, have not allowed the French to enacted a retributive peace treaty on Germany.

Where else were they going to get the money to repay the United States?

But, hind sight is 20/20 and who could have known the French would be so cowardly when the NAZIs rose up?

Kinda hard to fight when all your men died in the first war.

As for WWII, we had no choice. Japan attacked us, and Germany declared war on us.

Funny how that happens when you blockade a country dependent upon imports.

[AdamSelene235]

Europe isn't even on America's radar screen. Europe can drop dead. Or not. Nobody cares.

Americans rarely think about Europe. When I traveled prior to 911 I was always amazed at the depth of hatred Europeans had for America but these views were rarely communicated to the American public. After 911, this venomous hatred received wide coverage in the American media. For the first time, it became a topic of conversation among average Americans.

Does it mean anything?

Not really.

[swilhelm73]

No, our banks wanted the loans they gave the Allies repaid. That wasn't going to happen in a stalemate.

Well there is no doubt this played a role, the average American saw it as returing the favor - and this was even made into a catch phrase by American soldiers.

Kinda hard to fight when all your men died in the first war.

WWI ended in 1918. WWII started in 1939. THat is a whole generation later.

As a matter of fact, the French army as of 1939 was considered to be the most powerful in the world - and was on paper more than a match for the Germans.

The problem was a lack of will, not manpower.

[MegaSilver]

Americans see a total inability by Europe to handle immigration in ways that encourage dynamism and diversity instead of antagonism and higher state spending. This seems all the more puzzling because Americans realise how badly Europe needs new immigrants, given its extremely low fertility rates.

Umm... no. Considering its history and culture, Europe should definitely NOT accept many--if any--immigrants, and I suspect that its low fertility rates are driven even lower by fears that one's children will grow up as dhimmis.