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I need The Link To this torture video (Saddam-era)
me ^ | 5/23/1960 | me

Posted on 05/23/2004 7:25:51 AM PDT by ElisabethInCincy

Can someone find me the link to the video described here.. http://www.washtimes.com/world/20030630-113739-5041r.htm i saw it last week and for the life of me i cant find it i been searching for 45 minutes now help plz :) Video shows torture of prisoners overseen by Saddam's half brother

By Paul Martin THE WASHINGTON TIMES

BAGHDAD — A graphic video to be broadcast today shows Saddam Hussein's half brother, ousted Interior Minister Watban Ibrahim Hasan al-Tikriti, exhorting his police officers as they beat and torture prisoners. "Go on, go on," Hasan tells his khaki-clad ministry police as they repeatedly slash prisoners with sticks, electric cables and metal bars at a Baghdad detention center. The police kick the prisoners again and again. At one point, one of Hasan's own security guards is beaten with wooden poles, sticks and cables after pleading for mercy. Hasan was captured April 13 as he apparently attempted to flee to Syria and is being held in a coalition prison for "high-value detainees." A Ba'ath Party official who has the same mother as Saddam and is one of Saddam's three half brothers, Hasan was the five of spades in the deck of 55 cards distributed to coalition soldiers in the search for the most-wanted Iraqi officials. A reporter for The Washington Times has seen the video pictures in their entirety. Excerpts will be shown today by the Al Arabiya satellite television channel, which obtained them from an undisclosed Iraqi source. The gruesome pictures, with testimony by one of the beaten prisoners, are expected to be of value in building a criminal prosecution against Hasan. The U.S.-led coalition or its successor will seek to prove that the interior minister ran a systematic reign of terror, coalition legal experts said. The video shows prisoners held in a small fenced courtyard. They at first move from side to side as blows rain down. Then, as their bodies and heads become increasingly bloodied and their flesh torn, most topple to the ground and curl up in a fetal position. As some try to stagger to their feet when blows are being inflicted on other prisoners, the police officers return, knocking them down again until many lie helplessly on their backs, motionless and apparently unconscious. Each of two VHS tapes, in perfect color, runs continuously for about an hour. They appear to have been recorded professionally. At one point, the interior minister becomes angry that a car apparently belonging to Uday Hussein, elder son of Saddam, gets precedence over his own vehicle in entering a security area. One of two guards at the gate begs forgiveness from Hasan, pleading: "Sir, I did not realize that you were with Mr. Uday. ... I didn't realize. Please, please, in the name of Saddam Hussein, please." The guard, continuing wherever possible with his appeals, is stripped of his epaulet, then his shirt and his beret, and the beatings begin — with wooden poles, sticks and cables. After about 15 minutes, as he lies prone, the attention of the police officers and the cameraman switches to another victim. The officers regularly turn from their victims toward some authority figure off camera, presumably the interior minister, then quickly resume the torture. One of the men whose assault was filmed took the Al Arabiya satellite television team back to where beatings had occurred. The man, who gave his name as Ali, said, "We were beaten everyday like this for a month." Typical charges involved buying stolen or unregistered goods, or were related to quarrels with neighbors or their wives. Police, Ali said, would show films of the beatings to Hasan, and if he thought a prisoner had escaped too lightly, that man would be pulled out of his crowded cell and beaten again. Hasan had a reputation for brutality, but this is the first time such actions have been displayed publicly on video. Documents showing the regime's illegal trading activities, coupled with the increasing evidence of state-organized mass killings and widespread repression, are expected to form the basis for trials. The likelihood is that Saddam's former officials will be arraigned only when a new constitution is approved and an Iraqi-led government is in place. Coalition officials say it's important to provide the basis for such trials through the painstaking collection of evidence. They say it will help solidify support for a new Iraqi government by exposing the previous rulers as corrupt and vicious criminals rather than as tough patriots.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: torture; uday

1 posted on 05/23/2004 7:25:54 AM PDT by ElisabethInCincy
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To: ElisabethInCincy

http://www.homestead.com/prosites-prs/bergvideo.html

Make sure you really want to see this and what the reasons are for watching. I'm pretty hard about stuff like this but this put me in a bad mood for 2 days.


2 posted on 05/23/2004 7:28:23 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Fear knocked at the door, faith answered it, and there was nothing there.)
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To: big ern

Sorry, I thought you wanted the berg video.


3 posted on 05/23/2004 7:29:07 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Fear knocked at the door, faith answered it, and there was nothing there.)
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To: ElisabethInCincy
Torture?

Jeez, it's Sunday morning!

4 posted on 05/23/2004 7:32:50 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: ElisabethInCincy

May not be what you want- here's all I have handy:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1140572/posts
Reckless US Media Spiking Horrific Torture Video (Gotta Read!!)
Pipeline News ^ | 22 May 2004

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1140645/posts
US Media Refuses to Show Don North's Documentary About Abu Ghraib
The Federalist
In 1995 at -- appropriately -- Abu Ghraib prison, nine Iraqi businessmen were surgically "relieved" of their right hands.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1140205/posts?page=2#2
He Chopped Off My Hand
Online Sun ^ | 05-21-04 | Brian Flynn


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1140034/posts
Washington Post: Hussein-Era Videos Released to Contrast Prison Scandal
Washington Post ^ | May 21, 2004 | Peter Slevin


5 posted on 05/23/2004 7:45:40 AM PDT by backhoe ("It's so easy to spend somebody else's money." [ My Dad, circa 1958 ])
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To: ElisabethInCincy
Is it this?
6 posted on 05/23/2004 7:46:09 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: big ern

I saw the Nick Berg video myself, and I couldn't sleep for two nights.


7 posted on 05/23/2004 8:05:53 AM PDT by Arpege92 (There are no more political simpletons in the world today other than European Leftist -Yossi Halevi)
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To: ElisabethInCincy
The video might not be available just yet. NewsMax believes the major media is sitting on it.

"Friday, May 21, 2004 9:58 a.m. EDT Media Sitting on Saddam's Torture Videos The U.S. backed Arab-language news network Al Hurra broadcast video on Wednesday depicting grisly acts of torture on Iraqi citizens ordered by Saddam Hussein. But so far at least, the shocking new video remains embargoed by U.S. media outlets.

The Washington Post admitted on Friday that it was in possession of some of the gruesome torture images - but did not publish them in a report on the video buried on Page A21. Instead, Post editors decided to front-page stale images of U.S. abuse of suspected terrorists held at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib"

link

8 posted on 05/23/2004 8:10:07 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: ElisabethInCincy
I downloaded "Uday 1.mpg", and "Uday 2. mpg" here
9 posted on 05/23/2004 8:26:45 AM PDT by G.Mason (A President is best judged by the enemies he makes when he has really hit his stride…Max Lerner)
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