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Why Abu Ghraib Matters (Tammy Bruce)
Newsmax ^ | Tammy Bruce

Posted on 05/22/2004 10:16:56 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day

I was struck by how shocked members of the Senate were upon viewing additional pictures of the undisciplined, unprincipled freaks masquerading as members of our military at Abu Ghraib prison.

Keep in mind, according to reports from the Senators themselves, most of the additional pictures were of our soldiers having sex with each other– male soldiers having sex with female soldiers, that is.

Senators such as Feinstein and Campbell expressed absolute shock at the pictures they saw. I’m shocked at how out-of-touch our Senators seem to be when it comes to the nature of what happened at Abu Ghraib.

Now don’t get me wrong – I believe when it comes to Al-Qaida leadership and operatives, anything goes. I don’t care if you put women’s underwear on their heads, or frankly, even pull out a few fingernails of those responsible for mass murder, to unmask their continuing plans for the genocide of civilized peoples.

It’s called “torture lite,” it works, and I’m all for whatever it takes to get information, and yes, to punish and annihilate terrorist leadership around the world.

That said – I consider the vast majority of what happened at Abu Ghraib to be hazing – nothing more, nothing less. For weeks, all of us have been shouted at by the liberal media about how awful the events were, how having a man stripped naked in front of a woman was “torture,” how making a prisoner wear women’s underwear was “horrific,” and the most recent “charge” of forcing men to wear maxi-pads.

Ah, the horror of it all! I hear that the next stage of the abuse is to make the Iraqis read Ms. Magazine. Heck, that would be torture for anyone! Combine that with forcing them to watch Lifetime Television (the Network-of-Horrible-Things-Are-Going-To-Happen-To-You-Because-You’re-A-Woman) and I’m sure we’d have the location of bin Laden in an hour.

From what I could glean from our shocked, just shocked Senators, it seems as though they have never realized that the pornography industry is one of the biggest industries in the world; that we have raised now two generations of men (and women) with graphic, obscene images which have made degrading behavior “sexy,” “normal” and “exciting.”

For the Senators who do not know, or have not cared to think about it, the growing scourge of pornography relies on the degradation and humiliation of women, the usual subject involved. What a perfect tool to implement in war!

And, dear Senators, how dare you be so shocked and surprised that those who appear to have been the most depraved, the most abusive, seem to have been as obsessed about recording not only the sexual humiliation of their victims, but to participate in it and wallowing in their own sexual subjugation as well.

Through modern culture each of us is being conditioned to accept, promote and reward the worst in ourselves. The amazing and hopeful news in all of this is that most Americans still reject this plan of Leftists in control of social view of ourselves.

Film, television and even radio have gone further and further into a pit of mindless violence, loveless sex and degrading discussion. Finally, we’re demanding the FCC do something about it, but that won’t erase the decades of increasing depravity throughout all mediums of entertainment.

It is worth remembering, we are the greatest nation on Earth specifically because acts which are tantamount to hazing are surprising, and unacceptable, to most people.

In our efforts to maintain our perspective here, yes, we have promised Democracy to the people of Iraq. What Democracy and freedom brings is the rule of law – not perfection, but a way to deal with the imperfect, and even the depraved, among us.

As of this writing, Army Sgt. Charles A. Graner, Jr., one of the soldiers court martialed, seems to have defined his defense. His lawyer appeared on one of the many news programs last week and explained that Sgt. Graner was ordered to do the things he did by a superior, someone he could only identify as “Big Steve.” Who Big Steve was he did not know. And oddly, neither does Sgt. Graner.

This from a man, as USA Today reported, who has at least three protective orders granted against him by the courts at the request of an ex-wife who in court documents alleges Graner doing everything to her ranging from physical violence to videotaping her surreptitiously.

Sounds like something the Abu Ghraib prisoners are familiar with. With that background, it shouldn’t be so surprising that soldiers charged have claimed Graner was the ringleader of the abuse. And as most of us now know, Lynddie England, the most prominently pictured woman involved, is Graner’s “girlfriend” and pregnant with his child.

Of course, the blame game has started with a vengeance. No one, absolutely no one in this morbid game is willing to take responsibility for what has happened. That is, except for Donald Rumsfeld and George W. Bush, neither of whom have anything to do with the absurdity of the situation, but two decent men who are trying to do the right thing.

Instead, all those involved on the ground, ranging from Brig General Karpinksi, to PFC England, insist it was someone else, some other person. We have “Big Steve.” I’m sure at some point we’ll also get the surprise appearance of the Abominable Snowman shouting orders at people, or the Grinch, of the Cat in the Hat, or perhaps it’s been Larry Flint.

In addition to the scourge of pornography, the lack of personal responsibility at first seems mind-boggling, but is not so surprising. We have all been inundated with a Leftist culture that drills into us that judgment is verboten; that standards of behavior are oppressive; that expecting more from people is racist, sexist or homophobic.

The Left has been obsessed with creating a culture that tells people nothing that happens to them is their fault. We see this reinforced all the time within our Injustice System.

I detail in my book The Death of Right and Wrong, judges and juries freeing murderers because they’re “victims of a racist society” or fighting against the oppressor. Women who murder their children are set free because they are victims of “the cult of motherhood.”

Nihilism and moral relativism has its grip on so many, and yet the good news is, the extraordinary news is, that so few in the military display the immorality the Left feeds on.

By counterpoint, the real story of Abu Ghraib is that our military, in its greatness and commitment to free people around the world, instills in 99.9 percent of its men and women in uniform the maturity, discipline and love of country which seems to help erase the depraved elements the Left has drilled into our young people now for decades.

We can choose to focus on the few who represent the worst, or we can remember that ours is a military that will not only save the world from itself and the Islamist-Fascists who dream of death and destruction. We can remember it is an American institution which creates “greatest generations,” not by accident, but by training, principles, love of country, and for most, love of God.


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KEYWORDS: abughraib; abuse; immorality; iraqipow; morality; tammybruce
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I believe when it comes to Al-Qaida leadership and operatives, anything goes. I don’t care if you put women’s underwear on their heads, or frankly, even pull out a few fingernails of those responsible for mass murder, to unmask their continuing plans for the genocide of civilized peoples.

I'll second that.

1 posted on 05/22/2004 10:16:59 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day
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To: Choose Ye This Day
It’s called “torture lite,” it works, and I’m all for whatever it takes to get information, and yes, to punish and annihilate terrorist leadership around the world.

Agreed.

If the use of torture saves American lives, I support torture.

2 posted on 05/22/2004 10:29:44 PM PDT by Reagan Man (The choice is clear. Reelect BUSH-CHENEY !)
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Right--if it's to save American lives. If it's just because some bored MP's want to get their jollies in a rather twisted way...well, that's kind of sad. But the hardcore AQ guys, I sure hope we're NOT handling them with kid gloves, especially since all the Abu Ghraib hijinks were blown out of proportion.
3 posted on 05/22/2004 10:33:01 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Better a bag over your head than your head in a bag.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

"Combine that with forcing them to watch Lifetime Television (the Network-of-Horrible-Things-Are-Going-To-Happen-To-You-Because-You’re-A-Woman) and I’m sure we’d have the location of bin Laden in an hour."

I totally agree with this. When my wife tunes into this channel, I ask, "Who's getting beaten, battered, or murdered?"

A couple of days of victimized, I can't do it because a man will get me women would make anyone toss their cookies ASAP.


4 posted on 05/22/2004 10:36:36 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a Conservative)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

I'm reading her book, "The Death of Right and Wrong" and I heartily recommend it! Buy one and give it to a liberal!


5 posted on 05/22/2004 10:42:21 PM PDT by Humidston (You heard it here - BUSH/RICE - 2004)
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To: Humidston

GREAT book. Should be required reading for any college-bound kid, especially girls who are soon to be swamped by "Womyn's Studies" types. Give them a book by a lesbian with moral values (well, mostly).


6 posted on 05/22/2004 10:44:41 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Better a bag over your head than your head in a bag.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Go Tammy. She's bright, articulate and sensible. Gotta love her.

It's a shame she prefers to dittle other women. So much about her makes me think she would be a great wife and mother. But alas... it ain't gonna happen here.
7 posted on 05/22/2004 10:47:37 PM PDT by lizma
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To: lizma

There's no shortage of conservative guys who wouldn't mind trying to recruit her to "play for our team." But, no, it's not gonna happen.

If only she would re-think abortion...I think she's on the border there.


8 posted on 05/22/2004 10:51:58 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Better a bag over your head than your head in a bag.)
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To: lizma
But alas... it ain't gonna happen here.

Massachusetts maybe?

9 posted on 05/22/2004 10:55:23 PM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Thank you Tammy. That needed to be said.


10 posted on 05/22/2004 10:55:32 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: lizma

bttt


11 posted on 05/22/2004 10:59:39 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Choose Ye This Day

A female Rush Limbaugh. My mom read her book and loved it.


12 posted on 05/22/2004 11:02:51 PM PDT by Brimack34 (The media hates America. Hate them back)
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To: Choose Ye This Day; Peach; prairiebreeze; Neets; JRandomFreeper; oldngray; Miss Marple; Howlin; ...
By counterpoint, the real story of Abu Ghraib is that our military, in its greatness and commitment to free people around the world, instills in 99.9 percent of its men and women in uniform the maturity, discipline and love of country which seems to help erase the depraved elements the Left has drilled into our young people now for decades.

Amen!!!

13 posted on 05/22/2004 11:07:19 PM PDT by kayak
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To: Choose Ye This Day

I couldn't agree more! I think when I become Queen of the World I'll demand it be required reading for teens, LOL!


15 posted on 05/22/2004 11:19:46 PM PDT by Humidston (You heard it here - BUSH/RICE - 2004)
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To: Henway

She's close to coming around, though. Hannity had her on the ropes last year; I could tell that whatever sliver of conscience she had was telling her that abortion is murder, but she still hasn't been able to completely de-program her years of feminist "pro-choice" brainwashing.

Let's not give up on her completely.


16 posted on 05/22/2004 11:22:34 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Better a bag over your head than your head in a bag.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day

I never considered a woman's thong tossed on my head as torture...quite the contrary actually. I usually viewed that act as an encouraging bellweather of the immediate future.

Tammy is a handsome and smart lesbian.


17 posted on 05/22/2004 11:31:08 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
My latest outside-the-box thinking:

If one seriously considers President Bush's talk of a war between Good and Evil in a Stephen King sort of way, then a place like Abu Ghraib begins to look like the Overlook Hotel in King's novel The Shining.

Abu Ghraib is a place where horrible things happened under Saddam Hussein's rule. Horrible things are now happening under American rule, too, although not as horrible as before. Yet.

Can Abu Ghraib be a cursed place that is better off being demolished than reused?

-PJ

18 posted on 05/22/2004 11:46:55 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: Choose Ye This Day
Tammy is spot on... the Left really hates her guts so you know she has some right htinking in there. Now if we can get the stupid media to release those sex photos maybe then it will really offend people....
19 posted on 05/23/2004 12:03:07 AM PDT by jnarcus
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To: Choose Ye This Day
It’s called “torture lite,” it works, and I’m all for whatever it takes to get information, and yes, to punish and annihilate terrorist leadership around the world.

Well said!

20 posted on 05/23/2004 12:05:38 AM PDT by neutrino (Everybody, soon or late, sits down to a banquet of consequences. Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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